Re: World-beating test and trace system : Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:46 pm  

WestEndThinker wrote:

More bleating, no answers, you should become a local councillor on a sink estate, you'd fit right in.

You can only aspire to live on a "sink estate" like mine

Now, let me think who you were before your recent name change.
Could be Steph but, he's better than you so, more likely to be our former friend from Hull

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:04 pm  

2 weeks ago my wife tested positive for covid. i had 2 calls from the nhs to check i was self isolating. both lasted less than 2 minutes and consisted of are you isolating at home and have you met anyone from outside your houshold. total waste of time

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:21 pm  

roo67 wrote:

2 weeks ago my wife tested positive for covid. i had 2 calls from the nhs to check i was self isolating. both lasted less than 2 minutes and consisted of are you isolating at home and have you met anyone from outside your houshold. total waste of time

So how many calls and how long were you expecting? Sounds to me like they did their job. What did you want? A personal visit and a cuddle? Jeez

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:31 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

So how many calls and how long were you expecting? Sounds to me like they did their job. What did you want? A personal visit and a cuddle? Jeez

i was never asked if i had any symptoms or who i had been in contact with before my wifes positive test. they didnt even bother to tell me about the app . just the basics of a well run track and trace system

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:34 pm  

I was sent a message saying I had been near someone who tested positive, the problem was I was not in the U.K. and the system did not work. It turned out I was a victim of the fat fingers scandal.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:41 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Hilarious again Sal, China's economy is one of the fastest growing economies on the planet. I dont think that you can suggest that they ignore economic impact.
As for throwing money away, our current government are exceeding in this area, plunging the country's debt to unprecedented peace time levels.
As for the public "buying in" to track and trace, perhaps if we'd had a "World Beating" system, not only would the public have bought into it but, it might have actually worked ??

China is a huge economy - they can lockdown 60m people and it would have very limited impact on its economy - again your desire to get at the government impairs your ability to have a rational debate

Not sure what else the government can do - are you suggesting the investment in the furlough etc was a bad thing?

The track and trace would work much better if everyone was more compliant that is pretty obvious. If you really want to bring business to its knees then track and trace is the way.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:48 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

China is a huge economy - they can lockdown 60m people and it would have very limited impact on its economy - again your desire to get at the government impairs your ability to have a rational debate

Not sure what else the government can do - are you suggesting the investment in the furlough etc was a bad thing?

The track and trace would work much better if everyone was more compliant that is pretty obvious. If you really want to bring business to its knees then track and trace is the way.

Even Boris "liar" Johnson is acknowledging that his "world beating" system needs to improve before we can move forward.
Perhaps if they had worked harder on getting it right before their premature proclamation, we may not have been in quite the mess that we are currently in.
Maybe we should have delayed the return to University too

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:24 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Even Boris "liar" Johnson is acknowledging that his "world beating" system needs to improve before we can move forward.
Perhaps if they had worked harder on getting it right before their premature proclamation, we may not have been in quite the mess that we are currently in.
Maybe we should have delayed the return to University too

I agree in respect of a more robust tracking system - we appear to have got past the testing issues.

Whenever you would have sent kids back to university this was going to happen - all you would have done is have the same situation in later down the line. The longer you delayed the greater the impact as winter sets in? Leeds the infection rate is now declining as the students get back to normality

If people wont give correct contact details, wont download the app etc the trace system is completely impotent. Business will suffer serious issues if those told to self isolate with no symptoms can't get a test - its crazy.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I agree in respect of a more robust tracking system - we appear to have got past the testing issues.

Whenever you would have sent kids back to university this was going to happen - all you would have done is have the same situation in later down the line. The longer you delayed the greater the impact as winter sets in? Leeds the infection rate is now declining as the students get back to normality

If people wont give correct contact details, wont download the app etc the trace system is completely impotent. Business will suffer serious issues if those told to self isolate with symptoms can't get a test - its crazy.

The rate is falling in Leeds due to your tier 3 status ??

A delayed / staged return would definitely have been the better option, although this would have caused some issues with student accommodation and more precisely, who picked up the tab for the rental on empty property.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:05 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The rate is falling in Leeds due to your tier 3 status ??

A delayed / staged return would definitely have been the better option, although this would have caused some issues with student accommodation and more precisely, who picked up the tab for the rental on empty property.

Leeds is tier 2?