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Re: Nuclear fusion : Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:17 pm  
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Hahahaha Comedy gold is this. Taken from Wikipedia: You stated erroneously highlighted above low altitude, when in fact it was High Altitude Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and. Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters). You forgot to read up on your Altitudes. hahaha. Comedy Gold.

The bombing
Hiroshima was the primary target of the first nuclear bombing mission on August 6, with Kokura and Nagasaki as alternative targets. Having been fully briefed under the terms of Operations Order No. 35, the 393d Bombardment Squadron B-29 Enola Gay, piloted by Tibbets, took off from North Field, Tinian, about six hours' flight time from Japan. The Enola Gay (named after Tibbets' mother) was accompanied by two other B-29s. The Great Artiste, commanded by Major Charles Sweeney, carried instrumentation, and a then-nameless aircraft later called Necessary Evil, commanded by Captain George Marquardt, served as the photography aircraft.[119]


After leaving Tinian the aircraft made their way separately to Iwo Jima to rendezvous with Sweeney and Marquardt at 05:55 at 9,200 feet (2,800 m),[121] and set course for Japan. The aircraft arrived over the target in clear visibility at 31,060 feet (9,470 m).[122] Parsons, who was in command of the mission, armed the bomb during the flight to minimize the risks during takeoff. He had witnessed four B-29s crash and burn at takeoff, and feared that a nuclear explosion would occur if a B-29 crashed with an armed Little Boy on board.[123] His assistant, Second Lieutenant Morris R. Jeppson, removed the safety devices 30 minutes before reaching the target area.[124]

Hahahaha. High Altitude as i claimed earlier high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax Comedy Gold :lol:

OMFG

Stanley, you are drunk. When you sober up, please note, they DON'T EXPLODE THE BOMB INSIDE THE FUC.KING PLANE. (Can you think of any good reason why they don't do that?)

The PLANE is at a fairly high altitude. The question was about the altitude at which the bomb explodes.

Btw, why would Parsons fear anything, if there was as you claim actually no nuke on board, and indeed nukes didn't exist? :THINK:
FLAT STANLEY wrote:
Hahahaha Comedy gold is this. Taken from Wikipedia: You stated erroneously highlighted above low altitude, when in fact it was High Altitude Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and. Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters). You forgot to read up on your Altitudes. hahaha. Comedy Gold.

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Hiroshima was the primary target of the first nuclear bombing mission on August 6, with Kokura and Nagasaki as alternative targets. Having been fully briefed under the terms of Operations Order No. 35, the 393d Bombardment Squadron B-29 Enola Gay, piloted by Tibbets, took off from North Field, Tinian, about six hours' flight time from Japan. The Enola Gay (named after Tibbets' mother) was accompanied by two other B-29s. The Great Artiste, commanded by Major Charles Sweeney, carried instrumentation, and a then-nameless aircraft later called Necessary Evil, commanded by Captain George Marquardt, served as the photography aircraft.[119]


After leaving Tinian the aircraft made their way separately to Iwo Jima to rendezvous with Sweeney and Marquardt at 05:55 at 9,200 feet (2,800 m),[121] and set course for Japan. The aircraft arrived over the target in clear visibility at 31,060 feet (9,470 m).[122] Parsons, who was in command of the mission, armed the bomb during the flight to minimize the risks during takeoff. He had witnessed four B-29s crash and burn at takeoff, and feared that a nuclear explosion would occur if a B-29 crashed with an armed Little Boy on board.[123] His assistant, Second Lieutenant Morris R. Jeppson, removed the safety devices 30 minutes before reaching the target area.[124]

Hahahaha. High Altitude as i claimed earlier high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax Comedy Gold :lol:

OMFG

Stanley, you are drunk. When you sober up, please note, they DON'T EXPLODE THE BOMB INSIDE THE FUC.KING PLANE. (Can you think of any good reason why they don't do that?)

The PLANE is at a fairly high altitude. The question was about the altitude at which the bomb explodes.

Btw, why would Parsons fear anything, if there was as you claim actually no nuke on board, and indeed nukes didn't exist? :THINK:
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:21 am  
Sorry Butcher i'll answer your question in due course i got sidetracked again by an irate erroneous inaccurate copy and paste frenzy.

All footage that had to do with a mushroom cloud was faked. Mushroom clouds do not grow from high altitude blasts. A mushroom cloud must be seeded from ground level to express it's characteristic shape.

The post bombing photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki appear to be correct. These pictures bare the signature of an M-69 fire bombing attack exactly like the attack on Tokyo 6 months earlier.

Also note that Japan became the target of the highest degree of censorship following those historical bombings. No information left Japan in the media or otherwise without US approval. The hoaxster's paradise in fact.

Speaking of radiation the experts said nothing would grow in Hiroshima for 70 years following the bombing yet Oleanders were growing everywhere just one week after. The hoaxsters called that a miracle.

Seismological data or seismic records of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Novaya Zemlya are AWOL, missing. Especially the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba should have bent seismometer needles all the way around the world yet not one is there to be examined. Hiroshima was estimated to be the Richter equivalent of 6.4 which means the Soviets had the means to confirm the false claims of the American hoaxsters. Of course the Soviet leadership had similar hoax plans so they clammed up instead and played their cold war hoax.

I don't mind challenges to my information I welcome them. Haven't found one yet that has made me change my mind but I still welcome the questions being challenged with rationality.
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:15 pm  
Whilst I await your reply to my last correction of your bullcrap, your basic premise is just wrong. The bombs were exploded at 500 metres and 600 metres. Not at "high altitude". Which bit of that are you having trouble with? It's not much higher than the Empire State building. Why would you persist with your straw man about them being detonated at "high altitude"? Do you think nobody sees through it?

Especially the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba should have bent seismometer needles all the way around the world yet not one is there to be examined.

Have you checked with all seismic ground stations, then? Can you post their replies? Oh, you forgot to mention that this bomb was an airburst, approx 4000 metres. Or that
it produced pressure oscillations in the atmosphere that were recorded on barograms around the world in much the same manner as the pressure oscillations that followed the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, when as many as seven passages of the wave-front between Krakatoa and its antipode were observed.

Symons, G. J. , The Eruption of Krakatoa and Subsequent Phenomena (Trubner and Co., London, 1888).


Hiroshima was estimated to be the Richter equivalent of 6.4 which means the Soviets had the means to confirm the false claims of the American hoaxsters

It wasn't, in this context, but nevertheless the Soviets, if they did have the means, notably did not denounce the claims as fake. Which to most people supports the logical conclusion that that the bomb was real. But to you, it's conspiracy on conspiracy, and so if the Soviets fail to "confirm the false claims" that doesn't mean the Americans HAD exploded a bomb ... it means ... well, it must mean that ... the Russians were in on the fakery!
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:48 pm  
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Have you checked with all seismic ground stations, then? Can you post their replies?T:


Exactly as i explained there's no Seismic Data to research. Try digging yourself for the elusive Math. Or come up with some of your Mumbo Jumbo copy and paste frenzied outbursts. :lol:
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:05 pm  
My view of this Nuclear fraud, Is so called nuclear power generating plants are dump loads, big kettles that boil off the excess energy produced by the big utilities. They don't generate any energy they dispose of it so the big utilities can justify high domestic energy rates. By hiding the surplus this way they are creating the illusion of an energy shortage and they can keep your electricity bills as high as possible. Plus they make billions selling these huge kettles as so called nuclear power generators. That my gist.
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:01 pm  
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My view of this Nuclear fraud, Is so called nuclear power generating plants are dump loads, big kettles that boil off the excess energy produced by the big utilities. They don't generate any energy they dispose of it so the big utilities can justify high domestic energy rates. By hiding the surplus this way they are creating the illusion of an energy shortage and they can keep your electricity bills as high as possible. Plus they make billions selling these huge kettles as so called nuclear power generators. That my gist.


Ahhh. So Sizewell B is a kettle! You really are comedy gold, Stan.

But maybe you could clarify - what, exactly, do the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority, and the Office for Nuclear Regulation, do all day then, and why has nobody rumbled that there is nothing to decommission or dispose of or store? Except maybe kettle elements?

And by what mechanism do these here "kettles" produce tons of radioactive waste that needs to be stored/disposed of?

FLAT STANLEY wrote:
Exactly as i explained there's no Seismic Data to research. Try digging yourself for the elusive Math. Or come up with some of your Mumbo Jumbo copy and paste frenzied outbursts. :lol:


Leaving aside the breathtaking irony of the Maharajah of Mumbo Jumbo and King of Cut'n'Paste claiming this, I see that - as usual - you do not give any answer, at all, to the simple and few main points I raised about your earlier nonsense.

That's you - The Man With No Answers. You're a busted flush.
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:52 pm  
Stanley you're onto something here, my son works at Springfield not the Homer Simpson plant, ignore the nursery wiffle waffle.This deceptive nuclear industry, be it weapons or under the guile of commercially viable nuclear reactors is the paradise for the elite. The whole ripoff scheme is shrouded in national security protocols and security bonding which means you can't discuss your work outside the plant if you don't want to incur the wrath of the WNA and risk prison for attempted nuclear terrorism. The whole scam is compartmentalized so Sam doesn't know what George is up to. Perfect cover for the atom bomb hoax clusters.
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:46 pm  
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Stanley you're onto something here, my son works at Springfield not the Homer Simpson plant, ignore the nursery wiffle waffle.This deceptive nuclear industry, be it weapons or under the guile of commercially viable nuclear reactors is the paradise for the elite. The whole ripoff scheme is shrouded in national security protocols and security bonding which means you can't discuss your work outside the plant if you don't want to incur the wrath of the WNA and risk prison for attempted nuclear terrorism. The whole scam is compartmentalized so Sam doesn't know what George is up to. Perfect cover for the atom bomb hoax clusters.


It's also the best way to keep things secure, both from an external and internal view. The 'compartmental' nature of the industry helps not only security but safety to workers, other on-site workers, and the general public from contamination issues. I'd agree that it's a massive financial sinkhole, especially around decommissioning areas, but that's to do with managers, out-sourcing and work practice rather than the system. I've worked in the industry for five years (without going into details I'm sure Stanley can appreciate the reasons I wont go into any details after a previous conversation) and it is sensitive, especially in the current climate.

I can reassure you that there isn't anything going on in these places other than what they were designed to do. Or in the case of decommissioning, what they once did.

Sorry to be the bearer of boring news...
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:40 pm  
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It's also the best way to keep things secure, both from an external and internal view. The 'compartmental' nature of the industry helps not only security but safety to workers, other on-site workers, and the general public from contamination issues. I'd agree that it's a massive financial sinkhole, especially around decommissioning areas, but that's to do with managers, out-sourcing and work practice rather than the system. I've worked in the industry for five years (without going into details I'm sure Stanley can appreciate the reasons I wont go into any details after a previous conversation) and it is sensitive, especially in the current climate.

I can reassure you that there isn't anything going on in these places other than what they were designed to do. Or in the case of decommissioning, what they once did.

Sorry to be the bearer of boring news...


So you have conflicts of interest then ? The sensitivity is borderline insane if you ask me, no wonder whispers grow loud.
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Re: Nuclear fusion : Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:30 pm  
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So you have conflicts of interest then ? The sensitivity is borderline insane if you ask me, no wonder whispers grow loud.


Conflicts of interest regarding what?

People always whisper about things they don't, can't, or wont have access to. Whispers are always way over the top because, well, people don't tend to gossip about the mundane when it comes to these things. It has to be secure and sensitive by its very nature. If it wasn't we'd have all kinds of problems.

I suggest reigning-in your imagination a little. It's okay to speculate, but in my experience when you get a lot of speculation, it's not long before wild ideas become cemented as fact because they are repeated enough times rather than any grain of truth comes forward.

Often, the truth is a let down. A bit boring. Almost always normal.

I'm just offering an opinion based on my experiences in a job where I was not constrained or compartmentalized because of the nature of what I did.
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