: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:07 pm  

For me the Eastmond try was very simple, from first glance on tv he looked held up, there was no need to go to the screen, however what angle did the ref see it from? If he couldnt see it clear he has every right to go to the screen

: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:35 pm  

Some good points regarding the use of the VR to decide on scrums and drop outs. This is something that is creeping into the game more and more. Have i missed a change in the rules allowing the referee to consult on these type of incidents? I only thought they were allowed to be consulted for try scoring opportunties and 40-20's.

: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:39 pm  

A large part of the problem has to be that the tj's appear to do less and less to help the ref. Some of the decisions passed to the vr today would not have to have been were those 3 all doing their jobs

: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:38 pm  

I thought Silverwood was going to go to the video ref for what meat was on his sunday dinner tonight !

: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:47 pm  

There was one occasion when I was glad he went to video because he'd called the decision totally wrong and the video clearly put him right (when a Hudds player touched the ball first but Deadwood said we had knocked on). It wasn't a significant moment as it turned out, but it could have been.

The problem is prolly not with the video ref but with the clowns we call refs on the pitch.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:41 am  

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:

How long has going to the video ref for scrum decisions been allowed.

It needs stopping now, it could set a worrying precedent. Video refs take too long as it is. We don't need them umming and aahing over even more calls.

Brett Hodgson agrees with you on that one, although he did say that they weren't allowed to ask the third umpire. Probably still gloating about events at Headingley.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:51 am  

Lord_Percy wrote:

David Hodgson agrees with you on that one, although he did say that they weren't allowed to ask the third umpire. Probably still gloating about events at Headingley.

Why would David Hodgson be gloating about the working class Aussies stuffing the public schoolboys at cricket?

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:56 am  

hopie4ever wrote:

the scrum decision shows poor officials, he didnt see it, the tj didnt see it, so he went to the video

If you could tell, at full speed from parallel to the incident, that the Huddersfield player had played at the ball then you need to be out in Afghanistan finding Osama Bin Laden with that eyesight.

It got the merest flick off an outstretched finger, without the video there it would probably have been given as a Huddersfield head and feed. Do you want decisions made immediately or do you want them made right?

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:59 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

If you could tell, at full speed from parallel to the incident, that the Huddersfield player had played at the ball then you need to be out in Afghanistan finding Osama Bin Laden with that eyesight.

It got the merest flick off an outstretched finger, without the video there it would probably have been given as a Huddersfield head and feed. Do you want decisions made immediately or do you want them made right?

Depends on who gets the decision

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:00 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Why would David Hodgson be gloating about the working class Aussies stuffing the public schoolboys at cricket?

Yeah, good point.