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Re: The Army Camp : Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:02 pm  
I too have wondered about whether we could do with a passionate motivator as Captain a la Andy Farrell. I’ve got the utmost respect for Hill but when the chips are down in a Gramd Final and we’ve just gone behind with minutes to go I’d prefer someone who could stoke fire in the bellies of the players.
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Re: The Army Camp : Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:02 pm  
On press day it looked like Ratchford was sat in the usual captains position in the team photo I saw.
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Re: The Army Camp : Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:02 pm  
Easy solution is to make Hill club captain and Roberts team captain.
Hill has the call on trophy pick up.
Or is that just too easy?
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Re: The Army Camp : Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:03 pm  
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On press day it looked like Ratchford was sat in the usual captains position in the team photo I saw.

Well I'd go with that.
Ratch team captain and Hill club captain.
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Re: The Army Camp : Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:51 pm  
I don’t think Price has seen enough of Ratchford to know whether he is the Captain yet. They’ve only just returned to training. If I had to guess I’d say it’s Hill in Price’s thoughts until we near the start of the season and then maybe he’ll lump for someone he thinks might add a bit more towards the resilience he’s craving for. Ratchford is a good communicator with a good rugby brain but I’m not sure he’s a leader of men. He didn’t look commanding when in the halves in the big games. Currie is probably on the cards for the future though with his history. Wonder if Clark has the right stuff?
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Re: The Army Camp : Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:20 am  
These pre season camps make me smile, whether they're in 30C temperatures in The Canaries, slapping on the Ambre Solaire, or some bleak Welsh mountain range, having a 200l drum of freezing cold rain water, tipped over you, as some kind of forfeit for losing a team building session.
Gimmicky cobblers.

Have players working on technique. Championship winning players are dedicated. They work on their game constantly. Train hard, win hard. Ellery Hanley didn't need to go to the Brecon Beacons to be the best of his generation. He didn't urinate his career up the wall. Dedication. Practice. Training. That makes a sportsman. Not pratting around on a Krypton Factor style assault course,

A leader of men would help, too.
Whether they're international greats, Boyd or Morley, or localish lads Cullen(as a player) or Gregory. They commanded respect and got it. Blow as much smoke up Hill's bottom as you want, he's not a leader of men.
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Re: The Army Camp : Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:22 am  
It might be seen as a gimmick but it’s a good way of initiating players into this new regime - a sort of kick up the backside. It may not affect players skill-wise but it does draw a line under the previous technique of espressos on the balcony before a run up the beach in Tenerife. Price is setting his stall out and saying “with me you’ll work hard and work together for each other - no easy ride. If you don’t buy into my resilience philosophies I’ll find other players who will”.

Ryan Atkins talks about it here:

https://youtu.be/8CIuAEWAZY8

I’m impressed with Price’s approach on things performance-wise. Let’s hope he’s as good a tactician as Smith was and we could see a good couple of years from this team.
It might be seen as a gimmick but it’s a good way of initiating players into this new regime - a sort of kick up the backside. It may not affect players skill-wise but it does draw a line under the previous technique of espressos on the balcony before a run up the beach in Tenerife. Price is setting his stall out and saying “with me you’ll work hard and work together for each other - no easy ride. If you don’t buy into my resilience philosophies I’ll find other players who will”.

Ryan Atkins talks about it here:

https://youtu.be/8CIuAEWAZY8

I’m impressed with Price’s approach on things performance-wise. Let’s hope he’s as good a tactician as Smith was and we could see a good couple of years from this team.
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Re: The Army Camp : Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:53 am  
Very welcoming.
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Re: The Army Camp : Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:10 am  
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This kind of stuff is good for getting a populist cheer from the fans "the army camp will make men of them" but is it the best way to prepare an elite sporting team?

Sounds a bit of a risky way to treat players - what happens if a couple of first teamers break their legs? As its the pre-season are we able to deregister them and get freed up salary space to sign replacements? Does the club have insurance to cover medical treatment for players? Surely you have to pay a higher insurance premium if you're going to be doing this sort of thing.

I can't imagine that Melbourne Storm will have Billy Slater and Cameron Smith running around rocky hills in the pitch black as part of their pre-season.


Melbourne Storm must have done something similar. The army camp training was one of the first things that Michael Maguire organised for the team when he came to Wigan in 2010.
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Re: The Army Camp : Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:49 am  
I don't blame Psycho if he turned down an invite to this preseason bonding.
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