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Re: Injuries : Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:30 pm  
LeythIg wrote:
We've won in France once and were 90 seconds from winning our league game there. They beat us fairly comfortably at LSV. Widnes have beat us comfortably both home and away.

Not seen anything in these 8s to suggest that home "advantage" would lead to anything other than a performance gripped with anxiety, like the Hull KR game.


Personally, I'd rather have 5000 hostile Leythers providing an 'extra man' at home against Catalans, than about 7,000 hostile Frenchmen doing it to our lads! Whether in Perpignan or Leigh, the away team is going to feel somewhat under the cosh from the crowd.

I'm sure we will be all out for a win on Friday. here's hoping that London are no longer motivated!

Looking on the bright (er) side, we could/should have Higham, Vea, Dawson, Hampshire and Hopkins available for Friday. (I'd assumed Vea and Hopkins were just being rested)
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:38 am  
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Too right! Similar to a clueless boss in a commercial environment, "Go home and think about what you did wrong". Suited to 80/90's industry may be, but a modern-day Super League sporting environment?

It's actually quite laughable.


Higson officially warned about his poor time keeping, then went out on the lash Friday, bunked off training the day before Widnes.

Hampshire losing the plot and descending in to a foul mouthed tirade at his coach and telling him, (understatement) he is not playing where he was selected to play for Leigh, following a detailed analysis of where Jukes felt his best position was for us, deeming himself unavailable for Leigh team selection.

Well paid Super League sportsmen indeed.

So what would you do when faced with the above, given where we now find ourselves ? I am intrigued.

If I was warned about my timekeeping, entered in to a full foul mouthed tirade against my boss, refusing to do what I was paid to do, and bunked off full days work what do you think would have happened to me in my environment ?

So come on, tell me how you would deal with it ??
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:05 am  
Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
Higson officially warned about his poor time keeping, then went out on the lash Friday, bunked off training the day before Widnes.

Hampshire losing the plot and descending in to a foul mouthed tirade at his coach and telling him, (understatement) he is not playing where he was selected to play for Leigh, following a detailed analysis of where Jukes felt his best position was for us, deeming himself unavailable for Leigh team selection.

Well paid Super League sportsmen indeed.

So what would you do when faced with the above, given where we now find ourselves ? I am intrigued.

If I was warned about my timekeeping, entered in to a full foul mouthed tirade against my boss, refusing to do what I was paid to do, and bunked off full days work what do you think would have happened to me in my environment ?

So come on, tell me how you would deal with it ??


Wasn't Hampshire in the 19 for Halifax? Did the problem occur after that?
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:14 am  
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Wasn't Hampshire in the 19 for Halifax? Did the problem occur after that?


It is all resolved and happened sometime ago after the Widnes away game, I was replying to ' Centurino' statement criticising how it was been dealt with, without offering any alternative.

Over to him, to tell us how Daryl Powell and Shaun Wane deal with such matters ( Other than showing the door !)
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:55 am  
Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
It is all resolved and happened sometime ago after the Widnes away game, I was replying to ' Centurino' statement criticising how it was been dealt with, without offering any alternative.

Over to him, to tell us how Daryl Powell and Shaun Wane deal with such matters ( Other than showing the door !)


Thanks for that. Presumably he is available for London? Glad someone is!
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:42 am  
Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
It is all resolved and happened sometime ago after the Widnes away game, I was replying to ' Centurino' statement criticising how it was been dealt with, without offering any alternative.

Over to him, to tell us how Daryl Powell and Shaun Wane deal with such matters ( Other than showing the door !)


I don't think the question is how do they deal with such matters, but are there things they do differently, in the way they manage the squad or man management style, that help avoid such issues.

As I've said before, my main problem is the sheer number of fall outs, which leaves us short on numbers.
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:53 am  
LeythIg wrote:
I don't think the question is how do they deal with such matters, but are there things they do differently, in the way they manage the squad or man management style, that help avoid such issues.

As I've said before, my main problem is the sheer number of fall outs, which leaves us short on numbers.


I can only think of 3 issues but granted I am not privy to everything that goes on.

However it is no different to what goes on at any other club in any other sport even in association football.

Tevez at Manchester City, Costa at Chelsea, Beckham at Manchester United immediately spring to mind.

All dealt with by pointing them to the door out.
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:03 am  
Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
I can only think of 3 issues but granted I am not privy to everything that goes on.

However it is no different to what goes on at any other club in any other sport even in association football.

Tevez at Manchester City, Costa at Chelsea, Beckham at Manchester United immediately spring to mind.

All dealt with by pointing them to the door out.

If Hampshire is as bad as is suggested, then why did we make a concerted effort to enlist him? He certainly hasn't been given a fair opportunity at halfback! When I have seen Hampshire play he is always looking to get on the ball and he runs with it, something our halfbacks didn't do on Friday and never seem to! How many times have we seen opposing half backs running the ball across the line? on Friday Glen Stewart did more of that than either Drinkwater or Reynolds! This is going to be perfectly illustrated on Friday at London when, halfbacks Sammut and Barthau, start giving us the 'run around' :(
As for managing Hampshire, the Coach should have said right, your halfback for the next three games, show me what you can do 'smarty' fail, and I'll show you what I will do :wink:
Being 'Gobby' at halfback is not a bad thing provided you can back it up!
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:18 am  
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As for managing Hampshire, the Coach should have said right, your halfback for the next three games, show me what you can do 'smarty' fail, and I'll show you what I will do :wink:


Do you really want my honest reply to that ?

Oh alright, here is my opinion on that , copied from the James Clare thread. For what it is worth :wink:

Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
Where he was garbage (Hampshire at 6 v Widnes)

A performance that incredibly was improved from when he previously played stand off against Leeds that can only be described as complete and utter garbage.

Other than the intercept, what has the boy done of note this year?

I can only think of his wild try celebration at Castleford as though he had just won the Challenge Cup, whilst we were getting tonked.

Ridiculous. He should have been dragged off and fined. Game 1 and he was garbage there as well.
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Re: Injuries : Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:14 pm  
Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
I can only think of 3 issues but granted I am not privy to everything that goes on.

However it is no different to what goes on at any other club in any other sport even in association football.

Tevez at Manchester City, Costa at Chelsea, Beckham at Manchester United immediately spring to mind.

All dealt with by pointing them to the door out.


I'd actually say that 3 is a lot in a single season. Especially at the same time.
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