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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:53 pm  
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Hull had a lot of quality missing today but rovers I'm not sure. Who was missing for you? If you don't pick up a few more quality players between now and the season starting you'll likely be bottom 4 at the split


Lunt and Donaldson the only ones who would make their starting line up looking at their squad today and full squad list

They could really struggle if they don't sign anybody else but who is available?
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:54 pm  
They had a few missing to be fair, but no where near the quality we had missing.

I reckon they had about 10 players playing from their 17, whilst we had 4/5.
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:55 pm  
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Lunt and Donaldson the only ones who would make their starting line up looking at their squad today and full squad list

They could really struggle if they don't sign anybody else but who is available?


Both centres aswell.
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:58 pm  
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Both centres aswell.



Fair enough. Still looks a weak squad

Good to see we can rely on our youngsters this season when needed, think a few will get an early chance v cas after the Oz trip
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:20 pm  
How did the 2 Doncaster players perform, Liam Harris & Connor Scott ?
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:51 pm  
number 6 wrote:
Lunt and Donaldson the only ones who would make their starting line up looking at their squad today and full squad list

They could really struggle if they don't sign anybody else but who is available?

Lunt Donaldson Hefferman Minns Scruton Jewitt will be in the 17 so not just the two
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:55 pm  
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Lunt Donaldson Hefferman Minns Scruton Jewitt will be in the 17 so not just the two



still dont think its good enough to make the 8


seeing the front page of one of the rugby papers, looks like the clubs have missed the deadline to alter the league structure, middle 8s beckon again i reckon
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:08 pm  
It's good that Radford is going in the right direction with respect to getting the younger/less experienced squad members game time as happened at beginning of last year (And a lesson learnt from 2016 and before). However when it came down to it we still were somewhat weakened when they had to play and this was noted by such like Kirk Dixon when he was commentating on our games.

Only Brad Fash really stood up level for me, the likes of Litten didn't get any game time barring literally a few minutes and the rest, well, Turgut hasn't impressed, sure he's an adequate replacement but he's nowhere near Hadley's level or indeed that of Brad Fash IMO. Matongo did ok but limited in minutes and needs to believe in himself (but could really be a big asset if he pushes on), Jack Downs again didn't get much of a look in and really isn't quite there yet so they (all) need to improve another notch and they can only do that by getting game time at a higher level, even more important since the under23s situation.

However the advantage we have this year is that we have three forwards (Paea, JA and Hadley) in exchange for a waning Ellis (who only started 15 games incl CC games) and Thompson, I think this is an improvement in overall quality and importantly depth.
If indeed JA gets to play 13 rather than waiting in the wings and Watts stays in the middle and Hadley as an interchange for Houghton/bolster the 2nd row then that's a really strong option.
The only thing that concerns me is what is happening with Josh Griffin, he really needs to have a strong start because for me he's still not as good an option in the centres as Connor and CT, so where does he play, second row, tbh we have better options there as well.

Shaul
Bureta
Connor
CT
Talanoa
Kelly
Syned
Taylor
Houghton
Watts
Manu
Minichello
Abdul

Paea
Green
Bowden
Hadley

I think that is a ridiculously powerful and talented XVII and is why in the VT prediction I've out us as winning the comp IF we can sort out our defensive frailties/mental preparation.
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:28 pm  
knockersbumpMKII wrote:
It's good that Radford is going in the right direction with respect to getting the younger/less experienced squad members game time as happened at beginning of last year (And a lesson learnt from 2016 and before). However when it came down to it we still were somewhat weakened when they had to play and this was noted by such like Kirk Dixon when he was commentating on our games.

Only Brad Fash really stood up level for me, the likes of Litten didn't get any game time barring literally a few minutes and the rest, well, Turgut hasn't impressed, sure he's an adequate replacement but he's nowhere near Hadley's level or indeed that of Brad Fash IMO. Matongo did ok but limited in minutes and needs to believe in himself (but could really be a big asset if he pushes on), Jack Downs again didn't get much of a look in and really isn't quite there yet so they (all) need to improve another notch and they can only do that by getting game time at a higher level, even more important since the under23s situation.

However the advantage we have this year is that we have three forwards (Paea, JA and Hadley) in exchange for a waning Ellis (who only started 15 games incl CC games) and Thompson, I think this is an improvement in overall quality and importantly depth.
If indeed JA gets to play 13 rather than waiting in the wings and Watts stays in the middle and Hadley as an interchange for Houghton/bolster the 2nd row then that's a really strong option.
The only thing that concerns me is what is happening with Josh Griffin, he really needs to have a strong start because for me he's still not as good an option in the centres as Connor and CT, so where does he play, second row, tbh we have better options there as well.

Shaul
Bureta
Connor
CT
Talanoa
Kelly
Syned
Taylor
Houghton
Watts
Manu
Minichello
Abdul

Paea
Green
Bowden
Hadley

I think that is a ridiculously powerful and talented XVII and is why in the VT prediction I've out us as winning the comp IF we can sort out our defensive frailties/mental preparation.



I like the team you put out but dont see Radford starting Abdull at 13.i think he will go for power using Watts or Manu with Dean Hadley starting in the second row.
I am not a fan of Griffin but would use him off the bench as an impact second row.
The concern for the club will be what to do with the fringe players to keep them all match fit.Not sure how many we can send to Doncaster on D/R as we have four on loan but these guys need to playing at a higher level.
I would certainly look to move out Turgut on loan.he is just not progressing and needs to be out like we did with Hadley.
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Re: Friendly : Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:33 pm  
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still dont think its good enough to make the 8


seeing the front page of one of the rugby papers, looks like the clubs have missed the deadline to alter the league structure, middle 8s beckon again i reckon

You could be right the longer it goes on the more likely it is we'll be going with what we have
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