FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Smith - should he stay or should he go?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner21607
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 25 200321 years4th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 05:4411th May 24 17:32LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:49 pm  
HU8HFC wrote:
Not having a S&C coach is genuinely astounding


Bizzarely our Head of Conditioning used to be our Sports Scientist. This is what is says on the club's website. Jesus.

He oversees training loads, ensuring the players are training enough, without pushing them over their individual limits.


Quite telling just how young our backroom staff are. Head Physio 27, Assistant Physio 21, "Assistant Sports Rehabilitator" 26, Performance Analyst 26, Sports Scientist 23 today (happy birthday).
Last edited by ComeOnYouUll on Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2669
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 26 200915 years81st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 10:2210th May 24 05:56LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The Cavern Club
Signature
OLD FAITHFUL

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:22 pm  
ComeOnYouUll wrote:
Bizzarely our Head of Conditioning used to be our Sports Scientist. This is what is stays on the club's website. Jesus.

Quite telling just how young our backroom staff are. Head Physio 27, Assistant Physio 21, "Assistant Sports Rehabilitator" 26, Performance Analyst 26, Sports Scientist 23 today (happy birthday).


Everything on the cheap this season. Adds fuel to the fire that the club had written it off before a tackle was made (or missed in our case)
Steve0 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1894No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 03 200321 years35th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 14:1111th May 24 19:34LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:02 pm  
Maybe we had some top quality signings liked up, but as soon as that grade A license came in and we were exempt from relegation the club were straight on the blower to this years bargain basement signings instead to keep costs down
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain444No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 13 20186 years228th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 15:5511th May 24 15:54LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:21 pm  
ComeOnYouUll wrote:
Bizzarely our Head of Conditioning used to be our Sports Scientist. This is what is says on the club's website. Jesus.

Quite telling just how young our backroom staff are. Head Physio 27, Assistant Physio 21, "Assistant Sports Rehabilitator" 26, Performance Analyst 26, Sports Scientist 23 today (happy birthday).

The club is run like an amateur club from top to bottom , no wonder the players lack professionalism and the so called culture is bad . It’s what’s getting passed down from the very top . I bet some championship teams are ran better , even some players aren’t happy how unprofessional the club is ran . Training not tough enough , training times getting moved back on the day a few hours then some players turning up when it suits .
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3558
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 03 200420 years139th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 04:5810th May 24 08:41LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
United Kingdom
Signature
I have lost interest

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:28 pm  
Smith told to Get Your job done is utter
Rubbish
Adam should be saying that what he’s doing is not what he hired him for !!!

The instruction should be do a different job and here’s what I’m telling you to do

Create a WINNING culture - it’s that simple

I don’t know if any other culture worth having in sport

Imagine Toto Wolff at Mercedes saying that winning isn’t everything Lewis
We have to make sure you present yourself well and are a little bit woke

I mean what the hell is this Culture shoite

WINNING solves every thing and develops a positive well meaning culture

Why don’t you try it Adam and Tony ?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3782
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 11 200519 years202nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 13:2911th May 24 13:02LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
West Hull

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:12 pm  
Windy winger wrote:
The club is run like an amateur club from top to bottom , no wonder the players lack professionalism and the so called culture is bad . It’s what’s getting passed down from the very top . I bet some championship teams are ran better , even some players aren’t happy how unprofessional the club is ran . Training not tough enough , training times getting moved back on the day a few hours then some players turning up when it suits .

Some fans think, if we signed a 7, this would transform the performances- Nope.
Changing the Coach? - with the current backroom staff,of 1 S&C -Nope,
Winning stems from preparation , if you prepare like an amateur, you play like an amateur.
This group would benefit from a more fully resourced experienced backroom staff.
A reduction in experienced staff in S&C is suicidal in todays game, this is evident on the performances displayed.
Salford for example, have 2 S&C, the difference in fitness between us and Salford is alarming.
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner24505No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 14 200321 years1st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 17:0311th May 24 16:45LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Back in Hull.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:14 pm  
The more I read the more it seems Smith doesn't have the tools.

Lack of backroom staff
Well below cap
More training facilities

He definitely should be doing better, but he is coaching a club massively under funded on and off the field.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3558
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 03 200420 years139th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 04:5810th May 24 08:41LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
United Kingdom
Signature
I have lost interest

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:33 am  
Like Paul Rowley is……
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3782
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 11 200519 years202nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th May 24 13:2911th May 24 13:02LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
West Hull

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:59 am  
Tarquin Fuego wrote:
Like Paul Rowley is……

Paul Rowley has more experienced,and better resourced backroom staff, than we have .He also has a competent DOR..
IF we approached Rowley, I'd assume he would insist in bringing his backroom staff with him...
No need to guess, the response from Pearson would be.
The same response, when approaching both McNamara and Watson...
RankPostsTeam
New Signing60No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 27 20240 years277th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th May 24 12:559th May 24 05:57LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:33 am  
Pearson at the press meeting was asked if he was spending to the CAP and he said yes. Tony was given the money he asked for.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: B0NES, Faithful One, Irregular Hoops, K-Diddy, Khull909, Marcus's Bicycle, mean_machine, mwindass, tommyfinn, tommyfromhull and 405 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
Trebor1
89
12m
London Away
giddyupoldfe
71
13m
Rumours thread
PopTart
1259
17m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58187
18m
Shopping list for 2025
giddyupoldfe
1763
18m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36262
27m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
giddyupoldfe
1159
31m
Sam Eseh
RobRiches
12
55m
Fitzgibbon
Captain Hook
54
58m
Bradford next
upthetrin92
91
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
33s
Tonights game v HKR
Deus Dat Inc
61
34s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
bazdev
2196
38s
Fitzgibbon
Captain Hook
54
42s
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
mattsrhinos1
173
47s
Rumours and signings v9
moto748
28411
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Simmo71
8955
1m
Wigan Warriors Sensational Second Forty Crushes Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
1m
Rumours thread
PopTart
1259
1m
Shopping list for 2025
giddyupoldfe
1763
1m
2024 Squad Latest Update
Rafa9
11
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
"I didnt see that coming"
Gazzagiant2
2
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Sensational Second Forty Crushes Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leopards Change Their Spots
Leyther in n
5
TODAY
Luke Yates
WYSIWYG2
3
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hull KR As They Go Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull fc
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Charnley signs
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Tonights game v HKR
Deus Dat Inc
61
TODAY
Shay rent
faxcar
6
TODAY
Zak signs for Hull
WYSIWYG2
12
TODAY
Hull
the-bearded-
4
TODAY
The Brick Community Stadium
[Gareth]
27
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Devils
Bobby ball
7
TODAY
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
Trebor1
89
TODAY
Ticket for a fiver
Reboot
3
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Home
Mr Snoodle
17
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
80
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
180
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
510
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
452
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
1467
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
1432
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
1120
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
1214
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
2811
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
2811
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
2814
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
3149
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
3508
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
3229
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
3647
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist