Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:00 pm  

Oh, what a shock: no links to these polls and stories.

[DaveO]

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:05 pm  

Dally wrote: People's real incomes are projected to rise next year for the first time in 3 years. Ed M is as unpopular a leader as Clegg and far more unpopular than even Dave. George is easing off the custs / difficult decisions until post 2014. These factors plus some massaging of taxes, etc pre-election suggest a Tory outright victory at the next election. If the Tories kick out Dave and put Boris in, it'll be a landslide. Labour are in last chance saloon when it comes to changing leader. Dally-world must be a very strange place. Meanwhile in the real world wehave Ed M ahead of Dave C: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3030/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-August-2012.aspx and Ed B ahead of George O: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2976/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-June-2012.aspx Once the Olympic spirit has worn off and the government makes its next inevitable screw up I would expect the Tories approval ratings to resume their southward trend. The polls above show even with a "feel good" factor from the Olympics and parliament having been in recess for the summer the government still lags behind the opposition.

Dally wrote: People's real incomes are projected to rise next year for the first time in 3 years. Ed M is as unpopular a leader as Clegg and far more unpopular than even Dave. George is easing off the custs / difficult decisions until post 2014. These factors plus some massaging of taxes, etc pre-election suggest a Tory outright victory at the next election. If the Tories kick out Dave and put Boris in, it'll be a landslide. Labour are in last chance saloon when it comes to changing leader. Dally-world must be a very strange place. Meanwhile in the real world wehave Ed M ahead of Dave C: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3030/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-August-2012.aspx and Ed B ahead of George O: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2976/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-June-2012.aspx Once the Olympic spirit has worn off and the government makes its next inevitable screw up I would expect the Tories approval ratings to resume their southward trend. The polls above show even with a "feel good" factor from the Olympics and parliament having been in recess for the summer the government still lags behind the opposition.

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:33 pm  

Dally wrote:

1. As reported in the press within the last 3 days.
2. Ditto. A poll.
3. You reckon (Boris)? I think you'll find he appeals across the board - he's a reminder of what the English are all about - prepared to speak out, eccentric, etc. That ppeals to the nostalgic; and his celebrity status appeals to the youth.

You missed out 2(a).

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:39 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Oh, what a shock: no links to these polls and stories.

The Times / Sunday Times are subscriber. In any event, I actually buy 'papers to read. It's hard to link to a paper that's in the bin!

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:40 pm  

DaveO wrote: Dally-world must be a very strange place. Meanwhile in the real world wehave Ed M ahead of Dave C: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3030/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-August-2012.aspx and Ed B ahead of George O: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2976/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-June-2012.aspx Once the Olympic spirit has worn off and the government makes its next inevitable screw up I would expect the Tories approval ratings to resume their southward trend. The polls above show even with a "feel good" factor from the Olympics and parliament having been in recess for the summer the government still lags behind the opposition. The poll I saw was within the last few days - possibly Sunday Times. GO was by far the most unpopular politician listed.

DaveO wrote: Dally-world must be a very strange place. Meanwhile in the real world wehave Ed M ahead of Dave C: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3030/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-August-2012.aspx and Ed B ahead of George O: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2976/Ipsos-MORI-Political-Monitor-June-2012.aspx Once the Olympic spirit has worn off and the government makes its next inevitable screw up I would expect the Tories approval ratings to resume their southward trend. The polls above show even with a "feel good" factor from the Olympics and parliament having been in recess for the summer the government still lags behind the opposition. The poll I saw was within the last few days - possibly Sunday Times. GO was by far the most unpopular politician listed.

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:51 pm  

Dally wrote: The poll I saw was within the last few days - possibly Sunday Times. GO was by far the most unpopular politician listed. I guess you mean this one, where there is one point difference between Cameron and Miliband? http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ You take one point difference in a poll to mean that Miliband is "far more unpopular" ? Also, how you can use a poll that suggests Con 34%, Lab 44%, LibDem 9% and UKIP 7% as evidence to point to a "tory outright victory" in a "landslide", I really don't know.

Dally wrote: The poll I saw was within the last few days - possibly Sunday Times. GO was by far the most unpopular politician listed. I guess you mean this one, where there is one point difference between Cameron and Miliband? http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ You take one point difference in a poll to mean that Miliband is "far more unpopular" ? Also, how you can use a poll that suggests Con 34%, Lab 44%, LibDem 9% and UKIP 7% as evidence to point to a "tory outright victory" in a "landslide", I really don't know.

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:55 pm  

El Barbudo wrote: I guess you mean this one, where there is one point difference between Cameron and Miliband? http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ You take one point difference in a poll to mean that Miliband is "far more unpopular" ? Also, how you can use a poll that suggests Con 34%, Lab 44%, LibDem 9% and UKIP 7% as evidence to point to a "tory outright victory" in a "landslide", I really don't know. The link isn't working (the link within your linked piece), so I'm not sure if that's the one or not, Certainly, I don't recognise the content against the article I read.

El Barbudo wrote: I guess you mean this one, where there is one point difference between Cameron and Miliband? http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ You take one point difference in a poll to mean that Miliband is "far more unpopular" ? Also, how you can use a poll that suggests Con 34%, Lab 44%, LibDem 9% and UKIP 7% as evidence to point to a "tory outright victory" in a "landslide", I really don't know. The link isn't working (the link within your linked piece), so I'm not sure if that's the one or not, Certainly, I don't recognise the content against the article I read.

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:58 pm  

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... NTCMP=SRCH Could be this one. Although as I recall the article I saw has Ed M and Cleggers on the same.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... NTCMP=SRCH Could be this one. Although as I recall the article I saw has Ed M and Cleggers on the same.

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:02 pm  

I find Boris very entertaining on HIGNFY but I wouldnt vote for the Tory tw*t in a million years.

Re: Osborne's policy starting to bear fruit? : Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:33 am  

Dally wrote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/sep/14/boris-johnson-most-respected-politician?INTCMP=SRCH

Could be this one.

Although as I recall the article I saw has Ed M and Cleggers on the same.

So ... still no link to any poll that bears any resemblance to your analysis.