Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon May 27, 2019 1:10 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I wish that I'd taken more notice of his name but, listening to on of the Brexit Party's candidates for the West Midlands was just hilarious (quite sad actually).
He was asked about their policies.
One policy only, to leave the EU with No Deal and he was further questioned regarding the Irish Border and he said that there wouldn't be on.
All good so far.

He was then asked how goods would be "checked" to ensure that there wasn't any contraband or goods avoiding taxes in either direction.
He said that they would run the risk of random checks.

When it was pointed out to him that there wouldn't be any check points or people to man these checkpoints, he said that it would all be dealt with after the election

What a set of lying lovers they are.

The Tories hadn't got a plan and Farage hasn't either, other than getting us out on WTO terms, brilliant.

I take your point and if it was a general election I would be horrified, however, lets be honest, in the very short time they have been in existence its hardly surprising is it. Why would they at this point get involved in the border issue, I thought that is the gift of our elected MP's in Parliament. Lets also be honest have the jokers in Parliament actually come up with a solution that has been agreed which would work. I'm actually pleased he did say he was in agreement to not having a border to be fair. just a small point I didn't vote for the Brexit Party

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon May 27, 2019 3:21 pm  

POSTL wrote:

I take your point and if it was a general election I would be horrified, however, lets be honest, in the very short time they have been in existence its hardly surprising is it. Why would they at this point get involved in the border issue, I thought that is the gift of our elected MP's in Parliament. Lets also be honest have the jokers in Parliament actually come up with a solution that has been agreed which would work. I'm actually pleased he did say he was in agreement to not having a border to be fair. just a small point I didn't vote for the Brexit Party

You ask why they would get involved in the Irish Border issue ??

It's totally reasonable to think that they would have a solution, after all, they are a one issue party.

For such an enlightened party, it's reasonable to believe they may actually have thought about THE major stumbling block in the current negotiations.
As for only having been in existence for a short time ?
You are being a little cruel on Farage there.
He's a career politician and has basically moved in to the space vacated by UKIP

If only politics was so simple ??

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon May 27, 2019 4:04 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

You ask why they would get involved in the Irish Border issue ??

It's totally reasonable to think that they would have a solution, after all, they are a one issue party.

For such an enlightened party, it's reasonable to believe they may actually have thought about THE major stumbling block in the current negotiations.
As for only having been in existence for a short time ?
You are being a little cruel on Farage there.
He's a career politician and has basically moved in to the space vacated by UKIP

If only politics was so simple ??

Yes they currently are a one issue party and lets be fair at the moment its to shake up the two main parties who are not delivering and nothing more. If they want to be taken seriously as anything else eg to vote for in a general election then they now need to start looking a whole range of policies which will include a whole range of issues on leaving the EU if we have not already done so.
With regards to being unfair to Farage, I do agree he is a career politician but with the best will in the world you cannot put a new party together in as short a time as this and have everything boxed off. Look at Change UK all seasoned politicians even current PMs yet they couldn't even get there logo sorted and put someone up for election in these election that didn't want to.
The trouble with these new parties is they generally shoot themselves in the foot as UKIP has done, The Brexit Party for me has already done it by putting forward an alleged IRA sympathiser in the Northwest.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue May 28, 2019 6:21 am  

POSTL wrote:

Yes they currently are a one issue party and lets be fair at the moment its to shake up the two main parties who are not delivering and nothing more. If they want to be taken seriously as anything else eg to vote for in a general election then they now need to start looking a whole range of policies which will include a whole range of issues on leaving the EU if we have not already done so.
With regards to being unfair to Farage, I do agree he is a career politician but with the best will in the world you cannot put a new party together in as short a time as this and have everything boxed off. Look at Change UK all seasoned politicians even current PMs yet they couldn't even get there logo sorted and put someone up for election in these election that didn't want to.
The trouble with these new parties is they generally shoot themselves in the foot as UKIP has done, The Brexit Party for me has already done it by putting forward an alleged IRA sympathiser in the Northwest.

Although you are right to say that they are a new party, Farage and his buddies have learned from and copied the UKIP version that he began and was successful with a few years ago.
I dont think that Farage has too much interest in leading the party beyond getting Brexit out of the way, which for him, would be job done and equally, he has little interest in any fall out following Brexit and just like Cameron, albeit for different reasons, he will be long gone but, chipping in form the sidelines if/when things start to look grim.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue May 28, 2019 8:35 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Although you are right to say that they are a new party, Farage and his buddies have learned from and copied the UKIP version that he began and was successful with a few years ago.
I dont think that Farage has too much interest in leading the party beyond getting Brexit out of the way, which for him, would be job done and equally, he has little interest in any fall out following Brexit and just like Cameron, albeit for different reasons, he will be long gone but, chipping in form the sidelines if/when things start to look grim.

Only time will tell on that point my friend

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue May 28, 2019 7:06 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I dont think that Farage has too much interest in leading the party beyond getting Brexit out of the way, which for him, would be job done and equally,

Get brexit done, no deal of course

Privatise the NHS, selling it to the American medical companies

Then resign

Millions of working class have to sell their houses to pay for cancer treatment, while saying they’re glad they left the eu.

By up all the property

Sweet.

I’m glad this anti establishment bloke is doing well......

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu May 30, 2019 9:10 am  

Sheldon wrote: Get brexit done, no deal of course Privatise the NHS, selling it to the American medical companies Then resign Millions of working class have to sell their houses to pay for cancer treatment, while saying they’re glad they left the eu. By up all the property Sweet. I’m glad this anti establishment bloke is doing well...... He's doing really well. Now talking to far right parties from other parts of The EU and deciding whether to join forces in the EU Parliament. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eve-bannon The guy is a great "salesman" but, extremely dangerous but, the people of the UK (well a certain section of it) love the bloke

Sheldon wrote: Get brexit done, no deal of course Privatise the NHS, selling it to the American medical companies Then resign Millions of working class have to sell their houses to pay for cancer treatment, while saying they’re glad they left the eu. By up all the property Sweet. I’m glad this anti establishment bloke is doing well...... He's doing really well. Now talking to far right parties from other parts of The EU and deciding whether to join forces in the EU Parliament. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eve-bannon The guy is a great "salesman" but, extremely dangerous but, the people of the UK (well a certain section of it) love the bloke

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu May 30, 2019 10:01 am  

wrencat1873 wrote: He's doing really well. Now talking to far right parties from other parts of The EU and deciding whether to join forces in the EU Parliament. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eve-bannon The guy is a great "salesman" but, extremely dangerous but, the people of the UK (well a certain section of it) love the bloke If he is going down the far right route then his new party will go the same way as his old one, although you will always get some thankfully the vast majority in this country don't like extremism in any form. As a leave voter the ONLY party I can realistically vote for at the moment is the conservatives as I did in the EU elections but time will tell who the new leader is

wrencat1873 wrote: He's doing really well. Now talking to far right parties from other parts of The EU and deciding whether to join forces in the EU Parliament. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eve-bannon The guy is a great "salesman" but, extremely dangerous but, the people of the UK (well a certain section of it) love the bloke If he is going down the far right route then his new party will go the same way as his old one, although you will always get some thankfully the vast majority in this country don't like extremism in any form. As a leave voter the ONLY party I can realistically vote for at the moment is the conservatives as I did in the EU elections but time will tell who the new leader is

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu May 30, 2019 10:38 am  

POSTL wrote:

If he is going down the far right route then his new party will go the same way as his old one, although you will always get some thankfully the vast majority in this country don't like extremism in any form. As a leave voter the ONLY party I can realistically vote for at the moment is the conservatives as I did in the EU elections but time will tell who the new leader is

In his interview a couple of days ago, he also said that he was "accountable" but, that is one thing that he isn't.
Just as he did a runner from UKIP, once we are out of the EU (assuming that we do come out), Farage will be long gone, which makes it just too easy for him.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Thu May 30, 2019 1:30 pm  

Did he account for his furnished Chelsea home, a car and driver, and money to promote him in America given by the nice, honest insurance salesman Mr Banks?