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Seems like 'we' might start shooting people? : Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:42 pm  
Not just with rubber bullets (they're for children). As economies turn down democracies always get tough:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mends.html
Not just with rubber bullets (they're for children). As economies turn down democracies always get tough:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mends.html
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Re: Seems like 'we' might start shooting people? : Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:59 pm  
DAILY MAIL ATTEMPTS TO CAUSE OUTRAGE WITH SPECULATIVE/ FABRICATED STORY.

Stop the presses!
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Dally wrote:
Not just with rubber bullets (they're for children). As economies turn down democracies always get tough:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mends.html


For someone who "doesn't read the Daily Mail", you don't half post a lot of guff on here linking to their site.
Dally wrote:
Not just with rubber bullets (they're for children). As economies turn down democracies always get tough:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mends.html


For someone who "doesn't read the Daily Mail", you don't half post a lot of guff on here linking to their site.
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Matt23 wrote:
DAILY MAIL ATTEMPTS TO CAUSE OUTRAGE WITH SPECULATIVE/ FABRICATED STORY.

Stop the presses!


They're all at it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... finds.html
Matt23 wrote:
DAILY MAIL ATTEMPTS TO CAUSE OUTRAGE WITH SPECULATIVE/ FABRICATED STORY.

Stop the presses!


They're all at it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... finds.html
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Armed police in "in certain circumstances, we may actually fire " shock.
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Armed police in "in certain circumstances, we already do fire " shock.


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A few newspapers have run with this, they are obviously trying to get attention from people who will think it is a recommendation that police will open fire on peaceful protestors.

The recommendation here is that when people are burning down businesses that have a residential property attached to them (eg a newsagents/corner shop where the family live above) then due to the likelihood of this trapping people in the property above and having to either jump out of a window or burn to death then the police reserve the right to use lethal force.

Sounds reasonable to me, it's hardly a restraint on human rights to take away peoples rights to set fire to someone's house.
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I would imagine the police already have the authority and the right to do such a thing anyway.
The problem with it is, as with the idiots suggesting water cannon and rubber bullets would have stopped the riots earlier this year, that a police presence is necessary where these crimes are taking place.

The problem with the police response to the riots wasn't a lack of equipment or wrong tactics. It was a lack of police on the streets.
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