Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:12 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23433138 Civil liberties groups: No CCTV, Big Brother Watch and Privacy International complained to the ICO that you could not enter or leave a small village called Royston without being logged by these cameras. The police could not justify why they needed to log all this data, so have been told the cameras must go. If you lived in Royston, would you be pleased or not? As a Bradford resident I just assume that all main routes in and out log my car whenever, and I'm not sure there's much point to this ruling - what with CCTV, mobile records, ANPR etc we seem to be remorselessly logged and recorded wherever we go, certainly in most urban areas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23433138 Civil liberties groups: No CCTV, Big Brother Watch and Privacy International complained to the ICO that you could not enter or leave a small village called Royston without being logged by these cameras. The police could not justify why they needed to log all this data, so have been told the cameras must go. If you lived in Royston, would you be pleased or not? As a Bradford resident I just assume that all main routes in and out log my car whenever, and I'm not sure there's much point to this ruling - what with CCTV, mobile records, ANPR etc we seem to be remorselessly logged and recorded wherever we go, certainly in most urban areas.

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:19 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23433138
Civil liberties groups: No CCTV, Big Brother Watch and Privacy International complained to the ICO that you could not enter or leave a small village called Royston without being logged by these cameras. The police could not justify why they needed to log all this data, so have been told the cameras must go.

If you lived in Royston, would you be pleased or not? As a Bradford resident I just assume that all main routes in and out log my car whenever, and I'm not sure there's much point to this ruling - what with CCTV, mobile records, ANPR etc we seem to be remorselessly logged and recorded wherever we go, certainly in most urban areas.

Recalling the murder of PC Sharon Beshenivsky the police evidence on the murderers relied heavily on the cctv that followed their car from the crime scene to the M62, all the way, so you are probably correct in your assumption that all main routes in your city are covered.

I'm sure they could probably have picked any number of villages, towns and city's where a vehicle could be tracked through the whole of its journey.

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:32 pm  

Can't understand why Royston had the cameras in the first place - not a hotbed of crime.

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:05 pm  

Maple Leaf wrote:

Can't understand why Royston had the cameras in the first place - not a hotbed of crime.

Maybe it's the twitchers who have been parking badly before hiking uo onto Therfield Heath with their 'scopes and binoculars?

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:56 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Recalling the murder of PC Sharon Beshenivsky the police evidence on the murderers relied heavily on the cctv that followed their car from the crime scene to the M62, all the way, so you are probably correct in your assumption that all main routes in your city are covered.

I'm sure they could probably have picked any number of villages, towns and city's where a vehicle could be tracked through the whole of its journey.

I'd imagine that it's the use of the ANPR cameras rather than just standard CCTV which is the problem, since the ANPR automatically logs every car whilst providing the car registration and ownership details. Compared to having to physically watch the CCTV and track a car manually.

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:22 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

Recalling the murder of PC Sharon Beshenivsky the police evidence on the murderers relied heavily on the cctv that followed their car from the crime scene to the M62, all the way, so you are probably correct in your assumption that all main routes in your city are covered.

I'm sure they could probably have picked any number of villages, towns and city's where a vehicle could be tracked through the whole of its journey.

Am I right in recalling said that said officers used the 'intelligence' from such cameras to follow the wrong car all the way down the M1?

A couple of years ago, I was the unfortunate victim of a burglary that resulted in two cars being stolen. The police officers came round and, in conversation, informed me that a lot of stolen cars from Leeds now end up in Bradford - they knew this from the ANPR cameras. When I asked how many were actually recovered from Bradford, given that they had this 'intelligence', he seemed less inclined to trumpet this fantastic technology.

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:57 am  

Another example of the tree hugging civil rights fools getting their way. If you are not doing anything wrong, what on earth is wrong with it being logged?

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:11 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Another example of the tree hugging civil rights fools getting their way. If you are not doing anything wrong, what on earth is wrong with it being logged?

What are you doing wrong, then? I presume you must think you are, or don't want to take a chance, since to avoid your posts being connected to and logged and attributed to you, you avoid the internet equivalent of ANPR cameras by hiding behind the alias of "Saddened!".

Are you a tree-hugging civil rights fool? If you are not doing anything wrong, then by your own logic, why don't you use your real name?

What have you got to hide?

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:21 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Another example of the tree hugging civil rights fools getting their way. If you are not doing anything wrong, what on earth is wrong with it being logged?

Short memory, have you?

Or deliberately forgetting the last time you got your backside handed to you on a silver platter for claiming that privacy was unimportant and you wouldn't mind living in Stasi world?

Re: Herts police told to take down ANPR cameras : Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:48 pm  

bramleyrhino wrote:

Am I right in recalling said that said officers used the 'intelligence' from such cameras to follow the wrong car all the way down the M1?

Not sure, I think they picked up the culprits fairly quickly though ?