Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:30 am  

Is it acceptable for this lot to black up, whilst we are left to lament the loss of the Black and White Minstrels?

Is it acceptable for this lot to black up, whilst we are left to lament the loss of the Black and White Minstrels?

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:35 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Is it acceptable for this lot to black up, whilst we are left to lament the loss of the Black and White Minstrels? Without reading the article who are the we that 'lament' the loss of the Black and White Minstrels?

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Is it acceptable for this lot to black up, whilst we are left to lament the loss of the Black and White Minstrels? Without reading the article who are the we that 'lament' the loss of the Black and White Minstrels?

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:50 am  

"The 'Nutters' say the tradition of blacking up has little or nothing to do with race

"One theory is that it represents a pagan custom of disguising the dancers from being recognised by the evil spirits their parade is meant to ward off.

"Another is that it reflects the sooty faces of men working in the Lancashire's quarries and mines in the 19th century."

So, not quite like blacking up for a minstrel show, then.

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:25 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Is it acceptable for this lot to black up, whilst we are left to lament the loss of the Black and White Minstrels? That would be the Black and White Mistrels who were pepetuating the N-word Minstrel thing, the happily intellectually-inferior slave singing along? I don't see the similarity but I'm sure you can clarify.

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Is it acceptable for this lot to black up, whilst we are left to lament the loss of the Black and White Minstrels? That would be the Black and White Mistrels who were pepetuating the N-word Minstrel thing, the happily intellectually-inferior slave singing along? I don't see the similarity but I'm sure you can clarify.

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:04 pm  

So, the numbers "lamenting" the demise of the B&WM seem to amount to, er... 1 ?

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:14 pm  

The RFL should employ the dancers to face off against the NZ Haka and put fear into them on Saturday.

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:14 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

So, the numbers "lamenting" the demise of the B&WM seem to amount to, er... 1 ?

I don't lament it, not because it perpetuated the N-minstrel stereotyping, but because it was shoite although having said that if I had a choice between the return of N-minstrel stereotyoing and programs like Geordie Shore or TOWIE, then I'd be sat in front of a mirror with the blackened end of a cork, a stripey waistcoat and a straw boater this very evening

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:21 pm  

Mintball wrote:

"The 'Nutters' say the tradition of blacking up has little or nothing to do with race

"One theory is that it represents a pagan custom of disguising the dancers from being recognised by the evil spirits their parade is meant to ward off.

"Another is that it reflects the sooty faces of men working in the Lancashire's quarries and mines in the 19th century."

So, not quite like blacking up for a minstrel show, then.

"little or nothing "....."One theory".....more obfuscation than a Bradford Lawyer!

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:23 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

"little or nothing "....."One theory".....more obfuscation than a Bradford Lawyer!

I'm quoting from the article that you provided a link to.

Re: Double Standards? : Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:29 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

That would be the Black and White Mistrels who were pepetuating the N-word Minstrel thing, the happily intellectually-inferior slave singing along?
I don't see the similarity but I'm sure you can clarify.

No, that would be the award winning Black and White Minstrel Show, which was extremely popular back in the day, running for some 20 years on TV, and featuring a Vaudiville stage act of operatic trained singers performing Calypsos, Negro Spirituals, show tunes ,Country and Western, with a sprinkling of dancing and comedy.

Negro was the word you were alluding to?