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<snip> ... the amount of stories about cancer that the Mail prints – 'this gives you cancer', 'that gives you cancer' etc. Dacre claimed it was a tad misleading to suggest they printed lots of such stories, but even a quick search at the paper's own online site produced at least 10 pages of results for cancer stories.
And the way they're reported is such as to make what might be scientifically interesting/worthy research into something sensationalist and out of its wider context: so for instance, the 'working at night will give you cancer'...<snip>


A couple of years ago, I read Ben Goldacre's book Bad Science which I found very entertaining and readable ... but also enraging when you read about the sort of absolute tosh that masquerades as scientific reporting in publications such as the Wail.

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The book, that is.
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How the hell do you hollow out an underwater ice cave big enough to park a submarine in the antarctic with just the tools that you've brought with you on the submarine ?

Did anyone at The Mail read this story back to themselves before it went to print ?
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How the hell do you hollow out an underwater ice cave big enough to park a submarine in the antarctic with just the tools that you've brought with you on the submarine ?

Did anyone at The Mail read this story back to themselves before it went to print ?


My understanding of Antartica may be wrong but I'm not certain you could get a submarine to the "South Pole" (as claimed in the article).
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My understanding of Antartica may be wrong but I'm not certain you could get a submarine to the "South Pole" (as claimed in the article).

You could, with difficulty and a million huskies.
But not by sea.

Anyway .. is this a good time to mention my favourite hero?
Ladies 'n' gennlemen ... Mr Tom Crean.
A brief precis ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Crean_(explorer)

It does mention his epic lone walk across the Barrier (on the way back to the hut after Scott had abruptly told them to feck off they weren't coming all the way the pole) to get help to save his companions, on which he only had the three remaining biscuits as rations. But it fails to mention that he only ate two of them and put the third back in his pocket "in case of emergencies". :shock:

But that was only one of his many epics.
Read up about his expedition with Shackleton, where they sailed hundreds of miles in an open boat to South Georgia and then crossed a previously unscaled mountain range to get help for the blokes they'd had to leave behind.

Utterly, utterly amazing.

One day I'm going to visit the pub he opened in his later life "The South Pole Inn".
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My understanding of Antartica may be wrong but I'm not certain you could get a submarine to the "South Pole" (as claimed in the article).

You could, with difficulty and a million huskies.
But not by sea.

Anyway .. is this a good time to mention my favourite hero?
Ladies 'n' gennlemen ... Mr Tom Crean.
A brief precis ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Crean_(explorer)

It does mention his epic lone walk across the Barrier (on the way back to the hut after Scott had abruptly told them to feck off they weren't coming all the way the pole) to get help to save his companions, on which he only had the three remaining biscuits as rations. But it fails to mention that he only ate two of them and put the third back in his pocket "in case of emergencies". :shock:

But that was only one of his many epics.
Read up about his expedition with Shackleton, where they sailed hundreds of miles in an open boat to South Georgia and then crossed a previously unscaled mountain range to get help for the blokes they'd had to leave behind.

Utterly, utterly amazing.

One day I'm going to visit the pub he opened in his later life "The South Pole Inn".
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It does mention his epic lone walk across the Barrier (on the way back to the hut after Scott had abruptly told them to feck off they weren't coming all the way the pole) to get help to save his companions, on which he only had the three remaining biscuits as rations. But it fails to mention that he only ate two of them and put the third back in his pocket "in case of emergencies". :shock:


Was he reincarnated as the guy who won the Apprentice? He had the idea for an emergency biscuit too
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