[John_D]

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:44 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Also difficult for Sweden to make any such assurances given that a valid extradition request would be decided by their judiciary and not their government.

Fair point

[Kosh]

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:44 pm  

Him wrote:

Unless he's going to live in the embassy forever can he actually get out of the country?

Depends how far we're prepared to push it TBH. If they put him in a diplomatic car and drive him to an airport there's nothing to prevent the police from stopping the car an arresting him. Would cause a major diplomatic incident though.

[Kosh]

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:49 pm  

John_D wrote:

Fair point

Regardless of the validity or otherwise of the charges he faces in Sweden, the whole thing has now descended into a political game. Ecuador most likely made that request knowing full well that Sweden couldn't produce any assurances, and that as a result they'd have a perfect excuse to do what they wanted to do anyway. Asylum has been granted purely to stick two fingers up at the USA and, to a lesser extent, the UK.

Quite why anyone believes that Assange stands a better chance of being deported to the USA from Sweden than the UK is beyond me.

[John_D]

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:55 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Quite why anyone believes that Assange stands a better chance of being deported to the USA from Sweden than the UK is beyond me.

Yes, that's the odd one given that the UK is prepared to surrender anyone to the US under the treaty between us and them which Sweden - hardly a notorious enemy of free speech - is not a signatory to.

[DaveO]

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:01 pm  

John_D wrote:

Yes, that's the odd one given that the UK is prepared to surrender anyone to the US under the treaty between us and them which Sweden - hardly a notorious enemy of free speech - is not a signatory to.

I wondered about that. I would have thought Swedish courts less likely to surrender someone up than ours given the treaty we have.

Despite this Assange want's asylum as he doesn't feel that is any safeguard. I don't think any European country would grant it as they would say he has no fear of being persecuted in his home country of Australia so Ecuador it is.

Wonder if they will try and smuggle him out in a diplomatic bag (a large create in reality) as was tried once before?

[John_D]

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:11 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Wonder if they will try and smuggle him out in a diplomatic bag (a large create in reality) as was tried once before?

Almost makes you pine for the days of midnight flits to remote airfields. Harder to achieve in the age of modern communications. There's the Mourinho option of the laundry basket, I suppose.

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:27 pm  

As Newsthump says, "Man locks himself in building to avoid getting locked in another building"

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:36 pm  

John_D wrote:

Almost makes you pine for the days of midnight flits to remote airfields. Harder to achieve in the age of modern communications. There's the Mourinho option of the laundry basket, I suppose.

Just dress him as a schoolgirl, stuff him an a holdall and hide him in the loft. Then invite the Met to search the place.

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:27 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Depends how far we're prepared to push it TBH. If they put him in a diplomatic car and drive him to an airport there's nothing to prevent the police from stopping the car an arresting him. Would cause a major diplomatic incident though.

Couldn't we arrest him in between him leaving the embassy and getting in the car?

Re: Julian Assange : Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:07 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Just dress him as a schoolgirl, stuff him an a holdall and hide him in the loft. Then invite the Met to search the place.