Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:42 am  

CORNISH wrote:

why??
it rains in the uk , places get flooded.thats life.
in the next few weeks i reckon it might snow somewhere in the uk and places will be cut off.hopefully it wont be durhamshire(yes i know it doesnt exist) as it wont be fair on the people being cut off yet again as they are the only people who have suffered so far!!!

im getting so cynical in my old age!!

To be fair, it has been unusual.
I'm wondering if this is what we'll be seeing in coming years as well and, if so, what we need to be doing now to mitigate it.
e.g. New and bigger drains? Embanking rivers in populated areas? Slowing the run-off with planting at high levels, stopping peat and heather burning? Moving to the hills?

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:58 am  

It's the future. Once the ice caps go and the sea level rises, you'll all have to swim ashore and live on the coast in Birmingham.



The Costa Del Salford is going to be the place to be in 15 years. Beach front apartments will go for millions.

[Durham Giant]

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:01 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

To be fair, it has been unusual.
I'm wondering if this is what we'll be seeing in coming years as well and, if so, what we need to be doing now to mitigate it.
e.g. New and bigger drains? Embanking rivers in populated areas? Slowing the run-off with planting at high levels, stopping peat and heather burning? Moving to the hills?

That is my concern everything i have seen and read suggests that we will be getting more rain on a regular basis. If the North East shuts down every time it rains we are knackered. The A19 is still shut today. Imagine if the M62 was shut every time it rains heavily

There needs to be some planning to deal with this BUT it will need funding.

Newcastle City Council gets about £500,000 a year to look after its culverts which criss cross the city that is not even enough for them to survey the culverts let alone repair them

[Durham Giant]

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:04 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

It's the future. Once the ice caps go and the sea level rises, you'll all have to swim ashore and live on the coast in Birmingham.



The Costa Del Salford is going to be the place to be in 15 years. Beach front apartments will go for millions.

I like that Map. They should use that when handing out franchises as it looks to me like Wire, Widnes and Saints as well as both Hull clubs will be having to play Underwater Rugby whilst the pennine towns will be able to carry on in SL.

Also has Alex Salmond seen it. He could be selling off bits of Scotland and making a fortune, imagine the slogan,
" come to the highlands where you can drive to work rather than have to swim"

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:08 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

for the second time in 3 months and the 3rd time this year rain has cut the North East off from the rest of the country yet again.

The A1, A19 and A167 shut so no way to go Noryth to Souuth and vice versa. Then most of the cross country roads also cut.

I have lived up here for 30 years and have never known this to happen before.

Apparently it is is once in a 100 year event.

With it happening 3 times this year does that make it a once in every 33 year event.
I just cannot get my head around the fact that for the sake of a 10 yard stretch of road which regularly floods it just causes absolute chaos.

No, becuase they are indepenent of each other, based on historical rainfall its been calaculated that each event (assuming your figures are correct) has a 1% chance of occouring per year, the fact there have been 3 in the space of a few months, if anything makes it a "rarer" event (statisticaly speaking).

Also, the consistently heavy rainfall has saturated the ground and raised the water tables, leading to more runoff over the surface, which in turn has caused the water levels in watecourses/ditches to rise.

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:13 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

To be fair, it has been unusual.
I'm wondering if this is what we'll be seeing in coming years as well and, if so, what we need to be doing now to mitigate it.
e.g. New and bigger drains? Embanking rivers in populated areas? Slowing the run-off with planting at high levels, stopping peat and heather burning? Moving to the hills?

Sustainable drainage, source control, mimic natural processes. Design new development to flood in places, channel the flow between buildings by working with the topography.

Bigger pipes and higher walls won't solve anything long term.

Also new developments to be built out of flood plains (hard luck if you want a river view, or if you do don't whine when you can't get insurance and you have 2' of water in your front room), make them flood resistant.

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:44 pm  

Drought will last 'til Christmas

Drought will last 'til Christmas

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:55 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

To be fair, it has been unusual.
I'm wondering if this is what we'll be seeing in coming years as well and, if so, what we need to be doing now to mitigate it.
e.g. New and bigger drains? Embanking rivers in populated areas? Slowing the run-off with planting at high levels, stopping peat and heather burning? Moving to the hills?

Holderness and the area to the East of Hull is pretty much one ferking big flood plain but it is criss-crossed with canal-like land drains and used to cope pretty damn well. The EA has seen its budget slashed and British Waterways was deemed a QUANGO too far, so instead of Owen Paterson crowing about the number of homes saved from flooding, while strangely enough managing to blame Labour for the economic mess. Perhaps he should think about how many more homes could have been saved and how much lower the insurance bills could be, if his coalition chums hadn't thought "bugger them, my home's dry".

It seems we may be following something of a pattern and perhaps we may even start to see paddy fields being planted with rice instead of grains and oilseed rape

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:25 pm  

So, tell me again about there being no such thing as 'Global Warming', and how it's just a conspiracy to get us all to pay more tax?

Re: North East cut off again : Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:25 pm  

I don't understand all the fuss with this flooding malarky - Surely we just do the opposite of what they reccommend during one of our 'droughts'??

Encourage everybody to take baths, wash our cars daily, flush the toilet at least 3 times after a dump, leave taps running....If we can waste water and make it disappear so easily during a hosepipe ban, then we can do the same now during a particularly wet spell?