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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:41 am  
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You're not a cat owner then...


No i'm not and never will be
Cats are ok in doors, out doors they become fair game for the dog to chase
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:06 am  
My cat kills rats and leaves then in my garage, it also kills mice but he scoffs them, he never bothers with birds or frogs.

Anyone fancies hurting him will beg to be shot.
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:11 am  
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My cat kills rats and leaves then in my garage, it also kills mice but he scoffs them, he never bothers with birds or frogs.

Anyone fancies hurting him will beg to be shot.



what he said...............something that annoys me more is dog owners that don't clean up their dogs s**t! anyone caught not cleaning it up from public places should be fair game for a swift kick in the knackers or taco!!
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:23 am  
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No i'm not and never will be
Cats are ok in doors, out doors they become fair game for the dog to chase


So in summation, Cats shouldn't attack other animals but if they are outside they are fair game to be attacked by dogs ... seems fair :roll:
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:49 am  
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So in summation, Cats shouldn't attack other animals but if they are outside they are fair game to be attacked by dogs ... seems fair :roll:


Aren't dogs bound by law to be kept under control or leashed when out of their own environment. Cats should be treated the same as stray dogs imo .
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:54 am  
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Aren't dogs bound by law to be kept under control or leashed when out of their own environment. Cats should be treated the same as stray dogs imo .


I think you are taking my comments out of context. I was simply challenging the comments of one poster as it's hardly fair criticising cats but saying they become fair game for dogs.
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:12 pm  
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what he said...............something that annoys me more is dog owners that don't clean up their dogs s**t! anyone caught not cleaning it up from public places should be fair game for a swift kick in the knackers or taco!!


Whilst I agree with you, and speaking as a person who has a coat with at least one pocket full of plastic bags, the day I see a cat owner walking the streets after their pet with a pocket full of plastic bags ready to pick up their poop is a day that will be worthy of note in my diary.

I think the situation was summed up pretty well by someone on the Sunday Brunch program today when speaking about toads and how they, and birds, have something of a conflict with cats in many gardens - cats have never been fully domesticated and still retain a strong hunting instinct even though most of them don't need it, dogs are very much pack animals and most dogs will easily accept the subversent role in the pack (and the ones who don't are the dangersous ones), hence they are happy for the pack leader (you) to do the hunting and food gathering - thats the way it works in our house anyway, for the dogs and the other humans in it.

Just to throw another spoon in the mixer, anyone who happliy lets their dog chase a cat with no qualms is not keeping the animal under control as per their legal requirements, and somewhere down the line will find themselves sitting in a vets surgery facing a big bill for some pretty wicked scratch marks down their doggy's face.
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:45 pm  
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what he said...............something that annoys me more is dog owners that don't clean up their dogs s**t! anyone caught not cleaning it up from public places should be fair game for a swift kick in the knackers or taco!!



My cat has a tray in the house and a area of the garden for him to use, i can't do anymore than that, my neighbours throw stones/water to discourage him from visiting them.

I have no problem with them doing so, both are keen gardeners and don't want my cat but neither would harm him.

I have no issues with responsible dog owners. and cleaning up after them as improved.
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:35 pm  
And they say that athropomorphism isn't what it used to be.

Cats are hunters, hunting is an innate instinct that they have, they have no sense of what is cruel or not cruel, hence they cannot be termed "cruel" any more than a lion or a fox.

The responsibility for any hunting done by cats without bells lies with humans.
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Re: Should cats be controlled : Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:57 pm  
I was in our local pet shop at the end of last summer (what there was of it) and heard a guy moaning at the owner about the lack of birds that had visited his garden and blamed it on the local cats. The pet shop owner asked him how many caterpillars he'd seen during the summer and he answered "very few, it's been too wet". The owner said "well there's your answer, if it's too wet for insects to breed, there ain't going to be any food for the birds, so why should they visit your garden?"
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