Re: UK loses triple A rating : Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:57 pm  

money will pour out of London to New York. Barack obamas US has adopted a strategy focused primarily on growth and a measured approach to deficit reduction which is now paying dividends. Osbourne was alone in the world in adopting a strategy based on slashing spending and depressing demand and consumer consumer confidence and his clueless policies are going to take decades to recover from. The only upside is that this shower have taken 2 years to toxify the tories whereas thatcher took 9. A whole new generation will both hate and distrust the tories forever.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:03 pm  

rhino phil wrote:

The only upside is that this shower have taken 2 years to toxify the tories whereas thatcher took 9. A whole new generation will both hate and distrust the tories forever.

I think you underestimate how many voters blame Labour. I think the Tories will get a modest majority at the next general Election. Ed M is unelectable. The electorate distrust and distrust Ed Balls. Labour represents no-one and nothing. I am afraid they are a joke and for that reason alone the Tories will win by default.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:17 pm  

yes the polls are consistently pointing towards a tory majority at the next election and Dave and Gideons personal approval ratings are blasting ever skywards.

In other news pigs have been sighted flying serenely over Dallys planets

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:18 pm  

rhino phil wrote:

yes the polls are consistently pointing towards a tory majority at the next election and Dave and Gideons personal approval ratings are blasting ever skywards.

In other news pigs have been sighted flying serenely over Dallys planets

Opinion polls don't factor in the effects of the two Ed's being on TV every night during a GE campaign.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:01 am  

Dally wrote:

Opinion polls don't factor in the effects of the two Ed's being on TV every night during a GE campaign.

But they do factor in 2 clueless posh boys who are sending us to hell in a handcart.
Or are you suggesting that when it comes to voting time the folks will just forget their kids have nothing to eat because they don't like the scary mr Milliband.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:22 am  

Dally wrote:

I think you underestimate how many voters blame Labour. I think the Tories will get a modest majority at the next general Election. Ed M is unelectable. The electorate distrust and distrust Ed Balls. Labour represents no-one and nothing. I am afraid they are a joke and for that reason alone the Tories will win by default.

I'm afraid that I concur, politics at election time is all about personalities and persuasion and so far Cameron and Osborne are doing a remarkable job at pinning the blame on everything and everyone other than themselves, they are as slippery as greased piglets in a fairground and have consistently failed to be brought to explain themselves without recourse to "its not our fault".

I fear that with Murdochs support over the next two years (expect to see no further action from Leveson) then the wool will be pulled down even further over the electorates eyes and without an effective opposition they could easily win a workable majority - and they don't have an effective opposition at the moment, its like Thatchers realm all over again.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:53 am  

Sadly I'm another who can easily envisage the useless incumbents getting another shot in office.
They've successfully nurtured the devisiveness card, ala Thatcher.
Optimism is at a minimum.
Middle England willl batten down the hatches and look after itself, as much as it deems possible.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:11 am  

So, Moody's downgrade the UK's credit rating. They cite one of the main reasons as being our high levels of debt. People blame the Government.

In other parts of internetshire, or perhaps even on the same messageboard, people are moaning about cuts. Which are ultimately being implemented to try and reduce the national debt. People blame the Government.

You can't really have it both ways, can you?

[Kosh]

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:11 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Sadly I'm another who can easily envisage the useless incumbents getting another shot in office.
They've successfully nurtured the devisiveness card, ala Thatcher.
Optimism is at a minimum.

I'm similarly pessimistic, largely because voters nowadays rely on the media to tell them who to vote for and the broadcast media is relentlessly anti-Labour. And that includes the BBC. They've even managed to turn our loss of our AAA rating into an attack on Ed Balls this morning.

WIZEB wrote:

Middle England willl batten down the hatches and look after itself, as much as it deems possible.

I have news for you. 'Middle England' is also suffering under this bunch of incompetents - it's only 'Upper England' that's benefiting. These folk you think will 'batten down the hatches' were better off under the last Labour Government. Trouble is many of them are too daft to realise it or too ready to believe what the media tells them.

Re: UK loses triple A rating : Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:19 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Sadly I'm another who can easily envisage the useless incumbents getting another shot in office.
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I am not massively impressed with what we have at the moment. But the prospect of an Ed and Ed double act is simply too frightening to make me vote Labour.