Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:03 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

So, we lob a couple of cruise missiles into Syria to show our abhorrence at this latest example of Arab genocide. Then what? We fire off a few more from HMS Tireless, which is already on station in the med, and everyone has a warm glow of a job well done? Perhaps we should take a moment to ponder on the consequences of sticking our noses into what is a particularly vicious regional Muslim dispute is in order...

Agreed, in the sense that poking our noses in will likely make it all a lot worse.

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

Arabs per se, are arguably the cruellest race on Earth. Do we hear of any outraged protests, or the call to arms from any of the neighbours? I think not...

Racist claptrap.

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

Personally, I'd let them get on with it. After all, it is surely a simple demonstration of Allah's Will. We can salve our consciences with massive aid shipments once they get tired of killing each other.

Cynical claptrap.

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:50 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

Racist claptrap.

Cynical claptrap.

Feel free to provide some evidence to the contrary my little po faced chum.....

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:31 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

Feel free to provide some evidence to the contrary my little po faced chum.....

Feel free to apply a little intellectual rigour and back up your assertions.

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:57 am  

Why are we drawing up an "action-plan" at all anyway? How does this compare with the "action plans" of, say, Brazil, Burkina Fasso, or Finland? On what basis do we have any business drawing up any plans at all?

As a suggestion, now that we have sorted them all out, why not delegate Syria to the armed forces of Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan? It must be at least as much to do with them as it is with us.

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:59 pm  

We still don't know who the perpetrator is. I'd wholeheartedly guess it was Assad but then when the UK and US Governments come out and blame Assad it makes me think twice, I don't particularly believe much that our and America's governments spout. Be funny if Russia smashed a missile into a US ship and said "we told you not to get involved".

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:12 am  

100% Wire wrote:

We still don't know who the perpetrator is. I'd wholeheartedly guess it was Assad but then when the UK and US Governments come out and blame Assad it makes me think twice, I don't particularly believe much that our and America's governments spout. Be funny if Russia smashed a missile into a US ship and said "we told you not to get involved".

I just can't understand why Assad would have the need to use chemical weapons when he's been told it's the 'red line'. The opposition have a lot more to gain out of the rest of the world thinking it was Assad. Never underestimate the actions of a desperate man though.

I think Obama made the statement about chemical weapons and now has to start sabre rattling otherwise he and his party look weak. This should only escalate under instruction from the UN otherwise it could end up as the battle ground for a US-Russia-China war.

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:25 am  

I find this whole 'brotherhood of arms' (USA & Britain) aiming a strike at Syria worrying

•Who are we aiming at? Lets not forget there is two rival groups at war not just one side

•Do we have actual evidence rather than credible evidence of weapons used by Government forces?

•If we do strike, what are we going to achieve? We may overthrow Assad eventually but who is going to then control the country?! The rebels?!

This has bad news written all over it with far reaching consequences in the pipeline. Plus I honestly think other countries will not stand for it (Russia & Iran) leading to consequences from them.

Scary times ahead

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:56 am  

If Mr Cameron really can't stand by and let this happen without getting involved I for one will stand fully behind him and other Westminster cronies who can't stand by getting on a plane, going over there and sorting it out.

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:02 am  

It's not all bad news, if there is military action, Diane Abbot has said she would consider resigning from being an MP

Re: Latest Claims Made Against Assad Regime : Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:57 am  

100% Wire wrote:

It's not all bad news, if there is military action, Diane Abbot has said she would consider resigning from being an MP

Is resigning from the front bench the same as resigning as an MP?