Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:16 pm  

If you were on public property you are bang to rights, if you were on private land then they can go and do one.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:27 am  

post wrote:

.... before I left, I finished my cigarette outside of my vehicle and stumped it out onto the floor and got back into my vehicle.

Why do arrogant self-centred people like you just assume (as you clearly have, since you didn't spot the problem yourself) that society should deal with your filthy habit and clean up after your polluting arrse has left the building?

post wrote:

.... He said "He was working for the local council and under section 87 of the Envirnmental Protection Act 1990 you have committed an offence and I'm issuing you will a fixed penalty notice of £75".

Yes, all boxes correctly ticked. Maybe all that is needed is for the penny to drop as to your obnoxious anti-social behaviour.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:53 am  

I'm going to to be as harsh as FA, but I loving (most) hate smokers.

What is wrong with these people, if they're not littering they're standing out side door ways blowing smoke in your face when you leave.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:26 am  

Think you'll find smoking in a company vehicle is illegal now too.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:34 am  

Just to set one point straight, your employer should have no issue with you and this incident, you weren't smoking in the vehicle and the vehicle is just being used as a means of identifying you so unless there is a clause in your contract of employment for non-littering in public places or one that completely bans you from smoking anywhere then they have no complaint and probably wouldn't even have discussed it with you.

What would have happened had you not identified yourself is that eventually your employer would have received a letter informing them that a user of their vehicle was witnessed committing an offence, details of which would have been described, and your employer would be asked to identify the employee on that date.

Exactly the same thing happened to me some years ago when one of my employees was spotted flicking a cigarette out of one of my vans when driving, I dobbed him in of course.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:43 am  

Bang to rights.
You were caught littering and served with a fixed penalty notice.
Stop whining and pay up.

Not only that but you seem to have taken some pride in making it take as long as possible.
No sympathy from me, I'd be in favour of doubling it to £150 for messing about.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:09 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Why do arrogant self-centred people like you just assume (as you clearly have, since you didn't spot the problem yourself) that society should deal with your filthy habit and clean up after your polluting arrse has left the building?

Yes, all boxes correctly ticked. Maybe all that is needed is for the penny to drop as to your obnoxious anti-social behaviour.

I could understand if they made me do an hours litter picking in the area, I'd happily accept that, but they don't want that, they want to line the coffers by fining people and do so at a price that covers the subcontractors wage too. I kow for a fact the council don't clean the car park it's done by staff employed by the Tesco on the site, where is my money going?

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:25 am  

post wrote:

... where is my money going?

Paying a fine.
It's a punishment, not a contribution.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:42 am  

A cig end is no different to a banana skin, a crisp packet or anything else that is no longer wanted and just dropped on the floor (litter). I have friends who would pick up their cig ends and if no bin around place it back in the cig packet until they had the next cig and could dispose of them properly.

You littered, you got spotted and fined. Stop whinging and pay the fine.

Re: Fixed Penalty Notice : Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:06 am  

Hull White Star wrote:

A cig end is no different to a banana skin, a crisp packet or anything else that is no longer wanted and just dropped on the floor (litter). I have friends who would pick up their cig ends and if no bin around place it back in the cig packet until they had the next cig and could dispose of them properly.

You littered, you got spotted and fined. Stop whinging and pay the fine.

Holier than thou? I never drop crisp packets, bottles etc I have a plastic bag in my van to put my litter in and throw it in the bin when I get home and now I have a bottle with a little bit of water in so I can put my stumps into that when I'm done, there's no need for 1 or 2 posters on here to take the moral high ground as they have done.

I'd take a guess that 90% of smokers will throw their butts to the floor if there aren't any ash trays or bins with means to stub them out on.