Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:55 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Just as soon as the good Sir James gets to the bottom of this story, which was incidently, picked up by most of the media. A fact which seems to have escaped the notice of the more excitable types on here. Oh, and I'm not sure that a blog is neccessarily the fount of all knowledge either....... Like that's an indication of veracity

rumpelstiltskin wrote: Just as soon as the good Sir James gets to the bottom of this story, which was incidently, picked up by most of the media. A fact which seems to have escaped the notice of the more excitable types on here. Oh, and I'm not sure that a blog is neccessarily the fount of all knowledge either....... Like that's an indication of veracity

Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:30 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:19 pm  

Rumples is yet another of our boring little trolls, who all seem to be right wing, and who never seem to be capable of answering a question for themselves, and who don't seem to understand why they're risible.

Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:35 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Like that's an indication of veracity

Indeed. Given the type who would be attracted to the world of Journalism, you would be well advised to take anything Fleet St printed with a very large dose of salt. That said, they are not all phone hackers, and there is always a place for good investigative reporting.

On balance, where the most senior family Judge, Sir James Mumby makes an unprecedented intervention and demands answers from the Social workers.......where a Senior Italian Judge in Milan expresses outrage at this women's treatment......and even Shami Chakrabarti of Liberty describes it "as a dystopian science fiction unworthy of a democracy like ours"......I think I am in good company at expressing unease, and in wanting an explanation.

Closer to home, on a cheerier note, who would have thought that FA could have found his intellectual level with Big Graham? I feel a warm sense of satisfaction at being instrumental at helping this meeting of minds.

Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:45 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

and even Shami Chakrabarti of Liberty describes it "as a dystopian science fiction unworthy of a democracy like ours".

You conveniently omitted the "At first blush" that preceeded your selective quote.

Par for the course for the Wail and right-wingers in general. It would be interesting to hear what Shami Chakrabarti has to say now the real FACTS surrounding the case have been aired

Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:45 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Rumples is yet another of our boring little trolls, who all seem to be right wing, and who never seem to be capable of answering a question for themselves, and who don't seem to understand why they're risible.

You need to cheer up old girl. It's the season to be jolly and all that! Get the present Mr Mintballs to take you out for a meal and a show, and you'll soon be back on form.

We've not had a good rant for a while, and with the best will in the world, the other usual suspects are poor fayre.

Re: Social Workers : Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:19 pm  

Social Workers, damned no matter what they do (or don't do) in my experience.

Re: Social Workers : Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:05 am  

Standee wrote: Social Workers, damned no matter what they do (or don't do) in my experience. Indeed It's way past time for a root and branch reform of the ethos of this profession, and then you might be able to recruit and retain candidates of the calibre needed to improve the lives of those in Society who have fell by the wayside.

Standee wrote: Social Workers, damned no matter what they do (or don't do) in my experience. Indeed It's way past time for a root and branch reform of the ethos of this profession, and then you might be able to recruit and retain candidates of the calibre needed to improve the lives of those in Society who have fell by the wayside.

Re: Social Workers : Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:08 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

You need to cheer up old girl. It's the season to be jolly and all that! Get the present Mr Mintballs to take you out for a meal and a show, and you'll soon be back on form.

We've not had a good rant for a while, and with the best will in the world, the other usual suspects are poor fayre.

Nah. That doesn't count as even a quarter-way decent response to any of the points raised.

Re: Social Workers : Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:09 am  

Standee wrote:

Social Workers, damned no matter what they do (or don't do) in my experience.

Agreed.

Not helped because the only time that the media reports something involving social workers, it's usually negative.

They don't print the story about how social workers prevented a child from being abused, for instance.