Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:47 am  

I'm interested in the psychology of the reported suicide, the inquest was told yesterday by her husband that the lady in question was "normal" in every sense, had never suffered from depression, had never spoken of taking her own life at any time, was to all intents and purposes a perfect example of a nurse dedicated to her work - how does this change in the course of three days, do all of us have a trigger inside our heads that can be flipped by some event and make us suicidal, especially a medical person who is probably well aquainted with death in others and will know of many chemical ways to end there own (probably will have access to those methods too).

All that happened is that she was tricked into giving information on the phone, at worse she probably didn't follow procedure (if there was any in place), she should have got a bollacking, possibly a bit of retraining, there was absolutely no shame in her being tricked by a couple of radio presenters, so was she unfairly pressurised by her employer, did she feel that the whole of her career was in jeopardy - were there any procedures in place for handling those sort of calls which were inevitable given the status of the patient and what disciplinary events were started ?

Ultimately within three days things had got so bad for her that she killed herself - why ?

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:48 am  

it's interesting that the op's initials are FA, that's the same as the amount of interest from the rest of the population

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:05 am  

Standee wrote:

it's interesting that the op's initials are FA, that's the same as the amount of interest from the rest of the population

Without taking a nationwide referendum there's at least two posters on the Sin Bin who have already stated an interest.
Unless you see yourself as some sort of barometer for the national populations thought process?

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:11 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Without taking a nationwide referendum there's at least two posters on the Sin Bin who have already stated an interest.
Unless you see yourself as some sort of barometer for the national populations though process?

sorry, I should have said "majority" it was a terrible circumstance but, I am afraid, you cannot question the dead about their motives for taking their lives, it certainly isn't, in my opinion, worth debate.

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:20 am  

Standee wrote:

sorry, I should have said "majority" it was a terrible circumstance but, I am afraid, you cannot question the dead about their motives for taking their lives, it certainly isn't, in my opinion, worth debate.

Nobody is intending on questioning the dead.
It's not possible. (well I suppose it is but I doubt you'd get much of a reply).
The inquest is a judicial enquiry to attempt to ascertain the facts relating to the unfortunate death of Ms Saldanha and because of the nature and media interest surrounding her death many will be interested.

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:41 am  

Suicide is not an instantaneous action undertaken by a person of sound psychological & emotional state, based upon a single event.

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:40 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Nobody is intending on questioning the dead.
It's not possible. (well I suppose it is but I doubt you'd get much of a reply).
The inquest is a judicial enquiry to attempt to ascertain the facts relating to the unfortunate death of Ms Saldanha and because of the nature and media interest surrounding her death many will be interested.

and the outcome will be, will achieve what?

all public money being spent on a pointless exercise. If someone can be prosecuted then go ahead, otherwise, it's nonsense.

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:17 am  

Standee wrote:

and the outcome will be, will achieve what?

If you actually don't know what an inquest achieves, JFGI.

Standee wrote:

all public money being spent on a pointless exercise. If someone can be prosecuted then go ahead, otherwise, it's nonsense.

Given that it is - and has for centuries been - compulsory in English law to hold an inquest in such circumstances, why do you suddenly in 2014 pick on one inquest to tell us your view that unless someone can be prosecuted, inquests are a "nonsense"?

Do you think Mrs. Saldanha's family share your view that they shouldn't bother with an inquest as it is a "nonsense"? What should they do, then? No, don't tell me, let me guess, should they "move on"?

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:18 am  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

Suicide is not an instantaneous action undertaken by a person of sound psychological & emotional state, based upon a single event.

It can be.

Re: Nurse Saldanha and the "prank call" : Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:47 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

:WALL:
If you actually don't know what an inquest achieves, JFGI.
Given that it is - and has for centuries been - compulsory in English law to hold an inquest in such circumstances, why do you suddenly in 2014 pick on one inquest to tell us your view that unless someone can be prosecuted, inquests are a "nonsense"?

Do you think Mrs. Saldanha's family share your view that they shouldn't bother with an inquest as it is a "nonsense"? What should they do, then? No, don't tell me, let me guess, should they "move on"?

let them pay for it then, an inquest just makes parasites richer.