Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:15 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

We've all heard the "immigrants are stealing our jobs" for the last umpteen decades. Just which jobs were they stealing?

Seasonal jobs probably connected to the fruit and Veg industry on low income.

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:30 am  

chissitt wrote:

Seasonal jobs probably connected to the fruit and Veg industry on low income.

Not sure that’s stealing, how many brits wanted those jobs in the first place

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:15 pm  

ColD wrote:

Not sure that’s stealing, how many brits wanted those jobs in the first place

Quite a few I would imagine, if only on a part time basis to subsidise they're or their partners low income in rural areas.

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:29 pm  

They have been trying to recruit local pickers for many years without any success. It is not one of those jobs they consider fits their ambitions plus it is hard work, with early starts and in all weathers.

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:01 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

They have been trying to recruit local pickers for many years without any success. It is not one of those jobs they consider fits their ambitions plus it is hard work, with early starts and in all weathers.

Seem to think you've mentioned this before in comparison to lorry drivers and white collar workers.

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:34 pm  

No I said I was a white collar worker and you were a lorry driver neither were in relation to the work load, a person’s ambitions or the weather that I am afraid is your imagination.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:34 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

I don't think they were stealing jobs what they were doing was suppressing incomes and opportunities as firms didn't need to invest, loads of cheap labour - perhaps if they had - and they had plenty of notice - they wouldn't be in the position they are in.

I agree - apart maybe with the ‘plenty of notice’ part.

Weird to see the Tories shift the balance from capital to labour, even accidentally. It’ll be interesting to where we go from here.

If we can get shot of Johnson and his personal political need to keep on stoking tensions with the EU and keep Brexit as a live issue, the next election and the main party’s manifestos could be very interesting.

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:08 pm  

The EU by actually giving more on the NI protocol to make trade easier than we initially wanted increases the pressure on the U.K. government. The EU know that Boris will not accept it even though it is better than he initially signed for because he wants to actually cancel the entire protocol and look to blame the EU however they have made this difficult to achieve. The world will continue to wonder if they can trust any contract he signs should he implement Article 16.
He agreed it, he signed it and he announced it was the greatest deal so it will be his to own despite his efforts to blame others. I guess the EU know the type of operator Boris is and I doubt it troubles them one little bit because they know he will make a mistake leading to another crisis.

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:39 am  

Which rag did you read all that from?

Re: Is it a coincidence ? : Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:29 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

I agree - apart maybe with the ‘plenty of notice’ part.

Weird to see the Tories shift the balance from capital to labour, even accidentally. It’ll be interesting to where we go from here.

If we can get shot of Johnson and his personal political need to keep on stoking tensions with the EU and keep Brexit as a live issue, the next election and the main party’s manifestos could be very interesting.

I'm not sure that Labour should be trying to fight the next election an a Brexit agenda.
Regardless if it has gone badly, they become an easy target for the opposition, in that "it's what the people voted for".

On the subject of labour shortages, the simple question is, would our labour issues be better or worse had we not left the EU.