Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:26 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

It must be nice in your tinky-winky world where all politicians can be accepted without question and the Daily Mail always gets the story - keep your mouth open and keep swallowing.

Yes it is very nice thank you. Thankfully I take quotes from politicians with a pinch of salt and realise they have a reason for everything they say. Maybe you should try it sometime - stop yourself getting so wound up.

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:32 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Yes it is very nice thank you. Thankfully I take quotes from politicians with a pinch of salt and realise they have a reason for everything they say. Maybe you should try it sometime - stop yourself getting so wound up.

Their main reason is to lie to save face.

Keep swallowing.

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:44 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Their main reason is to lie to save face.

Keep swallowing.

Swallowing what?

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:02 pm  

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:03 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Swallowing what?

No need - BG

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:07 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Enough cock to put a handrail round the British coastline by the looks of things

I've reported your abuse.

Learn to use the report function - BG

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:23 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Swallowing what?

OK - contribute an opinion.

What do you think of the three spokespersons for HM Government when they heard the news from the Supreme Court that they had lost their appeal, why do you think messrs McVey, Duncan Smith and the anonymous DWP voice all focused on an element of the case that they won several months ago rather than commenting directly on the subject of their appeal ?

And while you are contributing throw in your opinion on the fairly new phenomenon of Civil Service departments offering political opinions such as the DWP has done today by repeating the Tory Party line, this is a department who potentially may have to be tugging a forelock to a Labour Government in 18 months and probably singing from a different hymnsheet - so what do you think about them issuing statements that have clearly not been written with a neutral slant and when exactly do you think that started to happen ?



Should be simple enough for you to opine...

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:34 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

I've reported your abuse.

Abuse?

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:51 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

OK - contribute an opinion.

What do you think of the three spokespersons for HM Government when they heard the news from the Supreme Court that they had lost their appeal, why do you think messrs McVey, Duncan Smith and the anonymous DWP voice all focused on an element of the case that they won several months ago rather than commenting directly on the subject of their appeal ?

It is what politicians do. Not just politicians either. People in all walks of life.

Make things sound better/worse/different than they actually are.

It is a bit like when you and others call the spare room subsidy the 'bedroom tax' when it is not a tax in any way shape or form. You know the word tax has negative connotations so you use this phrase in an attempt to turn people to your opinion / make people sympathise with your point of view.

JerryChicken wrote:

And while you are contributing throw in your opinion on the fairly new phenomenon of Civil Service departments offering political opinions such as the DWP has done today by repeating the Tory Party line, this is a department who potentially may have to be tugging a forelock to a Labour Government in 18 months and probably singing from a different hymnsheet - so what do you think about them issuing statements that have clearly not been written with a neutral slant and when exactly do you think that started to happen ?



Should be simple enough for you to opine...

No opinion on this / Don't care.

Re: Work for benefits : Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:14 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

It is what politicians do. Not just politicians either. People in all walks of life.

Make things sound better/worse/different than they actually are.

It is a bit like when you and others call the spare room subsidy the 'bedroom tax' when it is not a tax in any way shape or form. You know the word tax has negative connotations so you use this phrase in an attempt to turn people to your opinion / make people sympathise with your point of view.

Its nothing like the same thing.

To keep things simple, and topical on this forum, THIS is what its like ...

Reporter to Hull supporter : "Wigan gave your team a real stuffing in the Challenge Cup Final this year didn't they?"

Hull supporters answer : "Until we got those two drop goals in the last two minutes I thought we were going to lose that game at the DW stadium"


Its not putting a positive spin on a crushing defeat, its completely ignoring the issue of a crushing defeat by stating something completely irrelevant.