Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:37 am  

the cal train wrote:

anyone else got a trouser tingle from all that maths?

Also, how/why were the families notified by text of the recent announcement?!

so they heard the news firsthand, rather than via the TV I presume.

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:26 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Inmarsat looked at the Doppler effect on the signal to their satellite - the change in frequency due to the satellite's movement in orbit - and were able to predict a northerly route or a southerly route (the big arches on the news graphics) - at the time that was as accurate as it got. This had never been done before. This was passed to the Malaysian government on 12th March.

Following this their engineers carried out a more detailed analysis and came up with a much more detailed Doppler model, then compared the model with similar aircraft along similar flight paths, and found a definitive match. These results were passed to the AAIB yesterday.

Kind of what I said but better

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:13 pm  

the news via text message to families wasnt the only way they found out, the malaysian government said this was one of many ways of the news being communicated to them.

no one knows what happened but im thinking there has been some kind of massive malfunction and when turning round the plane they have lost conscious and just carried on till running out of fuel.

or the pilots have committed suicide/hijacked.

they will only have 2 weeks now if that to get to the black box before it loses battery and lost forever.

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:12 pm  

brearley84 wrote: they will only have 2 weeks now if that to get to the black box before it loses battery and lost forever. Or 2 years and less easy to find, like the Air France one http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26721975

brearley84 wrote: they will only have 2 weeks now if that to get to the black box before it loses battery and lost forever. Or 2 years and less easy to find, like the Air France one http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26721975

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:04 pm  

Chris28 wrote: Or 2 years and less easy to find, like the Air France one http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26721975 the malaysian black box will stop sending 'pings' out after 30 days.. they found the air france one two years later, but knew the location of where the plane crashed and had debris

Chris28 wrote: Or 2 years and less easy to find, like the Air France one http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26721975 the malaysian black box will stop sending 'pings' out after 30 days.. they found the air france one two years later, but knew the location of where the plane crashed and had debris

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:56 pm  

brearley84 wrote:

the malaysian black box will stop sending 'pings' out after 30 days..

they found the air france one two years later, but knew the location of where the plane crashed and had debris

Well if/when they find this one they'll have time to do that. The Air France one pinged for even less time apparently yet it was still found

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:44 pm  

Pingu the penguin is already on the case.

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:52 am  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Pingu the penguin is already on the case.

Psst. Nobody is laughing.

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:52 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Well if/when they find this one they'll have time to do that. The Air France one pinged for even less time apparently yet it was still found

we shall see, or maybe not

Re: Malaysia Airlines place vanishes. : Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:54 pm  

brearley84 wrote:

we shall see, or maybe not

Well quite