Re: "freeDUMB day" : Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:13 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

What is the greater risk being treated by a hospital worker with a very low risk of having the virus or not getting treated at all because there is no service available

Sorry ZZB but, do you think that is acceptable to have people treating you for an illness if they could pass on a virus that may kill you.
Of course, if you're having a heart attack and the choice is no help or, let someone treat you who has covid then, most people would want to take their chances of catching covid.
However, when you have hospitals treating people with suppressed immune systems, you cant have staff passing on the virus.
Mind you, if Cummings is to be believed, in Bojo's mind, the over 80's dont matter so, perhaps we should allow covid to "take" those with cancer as well.
In fact, we could start euthanizing any vulnerable groups, it might save a few bob

You simply cant have infected people treating people in hospital.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:57 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Sorry ZZB but, do you think that is acceptable to have people treating you for an illness if they could pass on a virus that may kill you.
Of course, if you're having a heart attack and the choice is no help or, let someone treat you who has covid then, most people would want to take their chances of catching covid.
However, when you have hospitals treating people with suppressed immune systems, you cant have staff passing on the virus.
Mind you, if Cummings is to be believed, in Bojo's mind, the over 80's dont matter so, perhaps we should allow covid to "take" those with cancer as well.
In fact, we could start euthanizing any vulnerable groups, it might save a few bob

You simply cant have infected people treating people in hospital.

What I am saying is there is risk in anything - if you need incubation for Covid it doesn't matter to you if the people treating have a very small risk <10% of carry the virus. Same goes for most life threatening conditions you just want to saved.

In your scenario the NHS closes - there will be so many pinged it will not be able to function - so many people will die - its about risk.

I agree about Johnson - he doesn't care a jot

On a brighter note infections seem to have peaked which is a good sign all round

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:20 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

In fact, we could start euthanizing any vulnerable groups, it might save a few bob

Which is exactly the Conservative Governments intention before someone pointed out that mass deaths wasn't a good "vote catcher", but now they've already stacked the bodies anyway, they're doubling down on their supposed vax success by going herd at full steam.

I know we're just a tiny little island of 5 million and we're OK at sport and farming, but I'd happily see out my days here in isolation than spend a second in a country that has a government who are hoping "death figures don't get too high"......it's wartime and you lot are being sent over the top again whilst the rich count their profits.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:00 am  

orangeman wrote:

Which is exactly the Conservative Governments intention before someone pointed out that mass deaths wasn't a good "vote catcher", but now they've already stacked the bodies anyway, they're doubling down on their supposed vax success by going herd at full steam.

I know we're just a tiny little island of 5 million and we're OK at sport and farming, but I'd happily see out my days here in isolation than spend a second in a country that has a government who are hoping "death figures don't get too high"......it's wartime and you lot are being sent over the top again whilst the rich count their profits.

I understand your sentiment (about being happy to stay on your island). However, assuming that Covid isn't going away anytime soon, I'm not sure that perpetual lockdowns is a great way to carry on in the longer term.
Having said that, if our government had managed a better level of control for people moving in and out of the country, we would certainly be in a better position now than we are.
The mixed messaging from Government over here is unbelievable, hypocrisy and confusion with every new day and an opposition party without any coherent strategy, which leaves Bojo & Co to carry on regardless.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:48 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

I have changed the thread title !

Are you allowed to change the thread title as you didn’t start it, or is it just to suit your own agenda

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:21 pm  

One thing that Covid has reminded us all is that the Tories don't give a flying one about ordinary folk!

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:10 pm  

orangeman wrote:

One thing that Covid has reminded us all is that the Tories don't give a flying one about ordinary folk!

But they said they were going to level up.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:14 am  

ColD wrote:

Are you allowed to change the thread title as you didn’t start it, or is it just to suit your own agenda

Probably.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:59 am  

Well he’s right. Just look at the disgraceful “protest” towards doctors and nurses at Trafalgar Square.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:30 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

On a brighter note infections seem to have peaked which is a good sign all round

Lol. We've had 3/4 days of reduced cases and you believe it's peaked ??

At least you've made me chuckle this morning