Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:28 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Like the opposite of Brexit, where something is voted in and we all take a hit.

Can't work out whose the ventriloquist and whose the dummy in you two.

Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:34 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.

It was the idiot that is Scargill that enabled Maggie

Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:56 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.

None of the pits survived

Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:17 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Can't work out whose the ventriloquist and whose the dummy in you two.

Maybe you need to look in the mirror for the answer

Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:54 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Maybe you need to look in the mirror for the answer

Not sure how you work that out squire, if your looking for work they need a good double act at a circus down in Brighton, one of the clowns called Starmer brought the house down when he said we need to get our house in order for the next election, even you and your mate couldn't follow that.

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:55 am  

chissitt wrote:

Not sure how you work that out squire, if your looking for work they need a good double act at a circus down in Brighton, one of the clowns called Starmer brought the house down when he said we need to get our house in order for the next election, even you and your mate couldn't follow that.

Since Cilla Black passed away, they have been looking for a new matchmaker, you should apply.
Myself and Scarlett may share some of the same political views but, disappointingly for you, we dont know each other.
I know that you have some kind of unhealthy obsession with his private life but, bloody hell, this is becoming a little tiresome. Dont you think.

Enjoy your moment. Brexit is "done" and Boris is "in charge", what more could you possibly wish for

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:01 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I agree, although wind and solar aren't quite as "unpredictable" as you suggest.
As for nuclear, it's incredible that after so much time "we" havent been able to find a way of dealing with nuclear waste

China and India are a huge problem.

Despite being huge nations with over a billion people in each country, they are still "developing" nations and their thirst for energy is still growing quickly and it's difficult for countries like the US or Europe to tell them to cut their emissions and effectively try to "hold them back". The same, to a much lesser extent, applies to Africa.

This is a very good point

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:19 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.

Given the current state of the labour market the idea that you could dilute employees T&Cs is a complete no runner. The idea that the Tories are going to dilute working conditions is a red herring from the left.

The unions would be useful organisations if they were able to concentrate on the job in hand working to improve workers opportunities. Unfortunately they see pushing the political ambitions as their prime objective. There is also an element of self interest for the union employees - look at Unite T&Cs for union employees. They also have a problem of a collective positioning i.e. they cannot deal with an individual issue without considering the impact on completely unrelated businesses. If a decision on one business would be ideal but set a negative precedence elsewhere the union will not support it.

Re: Why ? : Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:12 pm  

I see the government did not want to make fire and rehire illegal preferring to allow the companies to carry on unchecked. I guess you are correct that they have no intentions to dilute worker’s rights.

Re: Why ? : Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:48 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I see the government did not want to make fire and rehire illegal preferring to allow the companies to carry on unchecked. I guess you are correct that they have no intentions to dilute worker’s rights.

There are 1.25m vacancies - I would suggest if firms want to retain decent staff the opposite will happen - increases in rates of pay Amazon starting is £11.50/hour - better benefits. The market will determine the level not the unions.