Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:12 pm  

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:47 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

Meme of the week.

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:20 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Stick to paper, logistics, especially the distribution of hazardous fluids, is certainly beyond your grasp

You are a luddite - do you honestly think this process of filling tankers and transporting them and emptying them at filling station has reached its zenith!! There isn't a process out there that cannot be improved upon.

You need to stick to fishing or whatever you do now - no wonder you decided working was a bit too much for you.

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:05 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You are a luddite - do you honestly think this process of filling tankers and transporting them and emptying them at filling station has reached its zenith!! There isn't a process out there that cannot be improved upon.

You need to stick to fishing or whatever you do now - no wonder you decided working was a bit too much for you.

I'd prefer that to being a tory-supporting, union-hating imbecile any day of the week.

You still have absolutely no idea of the logistics involved in hazardous cargo distribution but you "know" it can be improved, all at the expense of the workers performing the function.

2@

Oh BTW, I work to fish. Once all the expenses have been covered, I spend the rest on catching fish so that I can cook and eat them.

Plaice and turbot fishing tomorrow, I'll let you know how I get on

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:21 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You are a luddite - do you honestly think this process of filling tankers and transporting them and emptying them at filling station has reached its zenith!! There isn't a process out there that cannot be improved upon.

With the benefit of your knowledge, what would you do then?

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:15 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

You still have absolutely no idea of the logistics involved in hazardous cargo distribution but you "know" it can be improved, all at the expense of the workers performing the function.

Now I think you're being unfair on Sal, he knows what things are like and how to improve things in the real world. I'm sure with his in-depth knowledge of the petrol haulage industry he can provide numerous examples of how the processes and functions involved can be improved. In the same way that carers could be made more efficient by restricting their expense accounts. In the real world of course.

[Kosh]

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:05 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

There isn't a process out there that cannot be improved upon.

Actually there are quite a few. No physical process can be improved upon infinitely, and then there's the law of diminishing returns to consider. For someone who likes to bang on about the 'real world' you seem to have a remarkably superficial grip on how things actually operate there.

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:22 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Actually there are quite a few. No physical process can be improved upon infinitely, and then there's the law of diminishing returns to consider. For someone who likes to bang on about the 'real world' you seem to have a remarkably superficial grip on how things actually operate there.

Perhaps the way the fuel is transported could be re-thought - does it need to be transported in vehicles? you speak as if you are an expert in this field - I doubt very much you have the slightest idea of what is involved?

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:29 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

I'd prefer that to being a tory-supporting, union-hating imbecile any day of the week.

You still have absolutely no idea of the logistics involved in hazardous cargo distribution but you "know" it can be improved, all at the expense of the workers performing the function.

2@

Oh BTW, I work to fish. Once all the expenses have been covered, I spend the rest on catching fish so that I can cook and eat them.

Plaice and turbot fishing tomorrow, I'll let you know how I get on

What do you actually know above moving hazardous materials in today's world? I know you think you are an expert in every single area of discussion on here - some of us are not that simple we fall for your diatribe. How long is it since you retired to the river bank?

I said no one should put in a position where they need to break the WTD or put themselves in danger. The fact the company is expecting workers to be in the position is simply laziness on their part.

Re: The Great Fuel Crisis of 2012 : Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:33 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

With the benefit of your knowledge, what would you do then?

I would look for the bottlenecks in the process and apply some simple Kaisan techniques to improve matters - could I suggest the following reading - The Goal by Eliyahu Goldratt - this might change you view about process improvement and their benefits.