Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:45 pm  

Mintball wrote:

He thinks you made a complete plonker of yourself. Several other people think so too.

However, it's entirely your decision if you wish to go on illustrating your lack of intellectual rigour, your inability to deal with facts – and construct anything like a proper argument dealing with those facts – and your own lack of self-awareness on this score.

Sorry dearie, I think it's just another case of the typical pattern of 'debating' on RLfans. After a few posts when your own ignorance and delusions are being challeneged resort to statements about the other posters education or intelligence when you know nothing about them.

A little clique that likes to hunt as pack and jump on anyone who doesn't share their messed up socilaist views on the world.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:51 pm  

Ignorance and delusions born of the Office for National Statistics.

LOL

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:53 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Ignorance and delusions born of the Office for National Statistics.

LOL

So in your opinion Labour did not leave the economy in a mess in 2010 when they left office?

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:54 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Sorry dearie, I think it's just another case of the typical pattern of 'debating' on RLfans. After a few posts when your own ignorance and delusions are being challeneged resort to statements about the other posters education or intelligence when you know nothing about them.

A little clique that likes to hunt as pack and jump on anyone who doesn't share their messed up socilaist views on the world.

At least your paranoia is a match for your delusion.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:57 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Sorry dearie, I think it's just another case of the typical pattern of 'debating' on RLfans. After a few posts when your own ignorance and delusions are being challeneged resort to statements about the other posters education or intelligence when you know nothing about them.

A little clique that likes to hunt as pack and jump on anyone who doesn't share their messed up socilaist views on the world.

So, let me get this right: all the stats and facts presented on this thread and others – are 'delusions'. Even the ONS's own statistical data is 'delusional' and, on the basis of this far-flung fantasy, somehow, "socilaist" [sic].

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.



If I remember correctly you're 27. So at least you can't blame Labour for the education system that produced you ...

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:59 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Sorry dearie, I think it's just another case of the typical pattern of 'debating' on RLfans. After a few posts when your own ignorance and delusions are being challeneged resort to statements about the other posters education or intelligence when you know nothing about them.

A little clique that likes to hunt as pack and jump on anyone who doesn't share their messed up socilaist views on the world.

I'm part of no clique.
Half of the posters on this thread have had more than one run in with me.
Doesn't stop me agreeing with them that you are talking grade A bull though.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:59 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

At least your paranoia is a match for your delusion.

Another one of the pack, all we need now is TB, Big Graeme and Him to have a full house.

Strange how you all consider yourselves to be powerhouses of political debate but stay on a socialist forum in your safe zone where you have your pack to back each other up and your strange views are rarely challenged.

Why not test yourselves and expand your horizons a bit?

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:05 pm  

Mintball wrote:

So, let me get this right: all the stats and facts presented on this thread and others – are 'delusions'. Even the ONS's own statistical data is 'delusional' and, on the basis of this far-flung fantasy, somehow, "socilaist" [sic].

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.



If I remember correctly you're 27. So at least you can't blame Labour for the education system that produced you ...

It's a fact that Labour operated a deficit during the boom years. They didn't fix the roof when the sun was shining. They claimed to have ended boom and bust, their own minsters admitted there was no money left.

This is Labour's economic legacy. This is why the economy is still in such bad shape and this is why the British public will not trust them to run the economy again in a very long time.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:05 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Another one of the pack, all we need now is TB, Big Graeme and Him to have a full house.

Strange how you all consider yourselves to be powerhouses of political debate but stay on a socialist forum in your safe zone where you have your pack to back each other up and your strange views are rarely challenged.

Why not test yourselves and expand your horizons a bit?

Strange how you appear to 'think' that you know where else everybody debates etc.

I'll give you a clue: you don't.

But what a poor little put-upon boy. Makes one wonder why you bother coming here to be 'bullied' by this appalling "pack" that you obviously believe are not very bright.

Re: How do cutbacks save economies? : Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:15 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

It's a fact that Labour operated a deficit during the boom years. They didn't fix the roof when the sun was shining. They claimed to have ended boom and bust, their own minsters admitted there was no money left.

This is Labour's economic legacy. This is why the economy is still in such bad shape and this is why the British public will not trust them to run the economy again in a very long time.

It is a fact that you are thick.

It is a fact that all governments operate a deficit. You've been given facts showing this for the last 30-odd years (there are plenty of stats showing this reality over a century and more) – spend a second or so actually looking at them.

If you condemn Labour for operating a deficit, then you have to condemn all governments for doing exactly the same.

It is not why the economy is in the mess it is.

That is down to a recession that was caused by the global cock-ups of the banks. If Brown had not acted quickly to bail out the banks in the UK, the mess here might have been far greater. As mentioned earlier, some economists believe it would have led to a depression rather than a recession.

There are very serious questions about Labour and regulation – but again, if you condemn the lack of regulation, then you have to condemn those who deregulated in the first place (and now want even further deregulation) and understand what such demands are a part of, ideologically.

You won't do that, because you're only interested in maintaining a myth – or, at best, a very small percentage of the true picture, and preferably without any context.

You want to go: 'oh look – Labour left a mess!' without the context of why the economy was in a mess at the time. When someone tries to explain that, you metaphorically put your fingers in your ears and go: 'Blah blah blah – not listening – not interested!'

If you seriously imagine that that is something like a proper way of debating, then you're an even bigger fool than you appear.