Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:45 pm  

How is the Reichmark debt going?
How is the French Franc debt going?
How is the £ s.d debt going?
How is the groat debt going?
How is the Confederate Dollar debt going?
What is money?
What is debt?
What is the true value of "goodwill"?
What is a concept?
What is magic?
What is something for nothing AKA Profit?
Why isn't there a global currency?
Why are people still malnourished?
Why are people still dying of thirst?
Why is all "right wing politics" about greed?
Is there any humanity left?
Is now greed the ultimate for human beings to aspire to?
Perhaps it always been this way but with modern methods of communication allied to educating people it appears that the world is a very nasty place and no one wants it to be a nice place especially if "money" is to be made.
You know we are in trouble when a government makes it illegal to catch rainwater, just after they have privatised the water business in their country!

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:06 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

How is the Reichmark debt going?
How is the French Franc debt going?
How is the £ s.d debt going?
How is the groat debt going?
How is the Confederate Dollar debt going?
What is money?
What is debt?
What is the true value of "goodwill"?
What is a concept?
What is magic?
What is something for nothing AKA Profit?
Why isn't there a global currency?
Why are people still malnourished?
Why are people still dying of thirst?
Why is all "right wing politics" about greed?
Is there any humanity left?
Is now greed the ultimate for human beings to aspire to?
Perhaps it always been this way but with modern methods of communication allied to educating people it appears that the world is a very nasty place and no one wants it to be a nice place especially if "money" is to be made.
You know we are in trouble when a government makes it illegal to catch rainwater, just after they have privatised the water business in their country!

You are a very strange individual with very obtuse views - perhaps a spell in Putin's Russia might help you overcome your misconception about the advantages of Capitalism.

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:13 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You are a very strange individual with very obtuse views - perhaps a spell in Putin's Russia might help you overcome your misconception about the advantages of Capitalism.

At least we didn't get RIGHT WING in capitals this time for no apparent reason.

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:44 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

You know we are in trouble when a government makes it illegal to catch rainwater, just after they have privatised the water business in their country!

Its not.
Hence the millions of people who have water butts in their gardens.

I can't think of many who have the ability to capture enough rainwater on their property to cause a shortage of water amongst their neighbours and a drop in profits at a water company, file this misinformation under "bin" along with the one that says its illegal to completely concrete over your garden as it prevents water soaking away.

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:31 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Its not.
Hence the millions of people who have water butts in their gardens.

I can't think of many who have the ability to capture enough rainwater on their property to cause a shortage of water amongst their neighbours and a drop in profits at a water company, file this misinformation under "bin" along with the one that says its illegal to completely concrete over your garden as it prevents water soaking away.

It wasn't this country, and no I'm not going to say where. The Information is available if people are interested. I Suspect most are not.

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:34 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You are a very strange individual with very obtuse views - perhaps a spell in Putin's Russia might help you overcome your misconception about the advantages of Capitalism.

Oh please do explain where I am being obtuse.
Also are you actually capable of answering the questions asked?
Can you see any connection?

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:36 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

At least we didn't get RIGHT WING in capitals this time for no apparent reason.

I'll hazard a guess you will not understand why!

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:59 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

Oh please do explain where I am being obtuse.
Also are you actually capable of answering the questions asked?
Can you see any connection?

You have been picked up on the rain water - the point about malnourishment, thirst do I need to go any further - you are just plain bonkers

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:33 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

It wasn't this country, and no I'm not going to say where. The Information is available if people are interested. I Suspect most are not.

A couple of desert states in America and some districts in Australia have local legislation to prevent farmers from hoarding rainwater in dams without first being approved so as to prevent their actions from accidentally contaminating the water which is then used on the land and gets into the water table - thats all, its a classic urban myth and conspiracy theory which holds no water at all.

Re: Greece - Rise of the left or rise of the young? : Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:34 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Its not quite the same thing but you may be interested in a new regulation that sneaked in on Jan 1st that was brought to my attention by 38 degrees or some other pressure group because it might even affect me - the Useless Vince has been petitioned about it anyway.

From Jan 1st it became a requirement for anyone who traded in web sales of media to levy VAT on those sales - this will mainly affect independent bands who sell their own audio tracks and the worst thing about it is there is no opt-out below a threshold of turnover as there normally is with VAT, even worse is that you have to levy VAT at the rate applicable to the country that the user was located in when they downloaded it (its a European ruling).

There is a threat that this will include all web sales of any type from next year, hence my own interest.

Its all gone quiet since I first read of it so not sure if its actually being implemented now but it sort of addresses the issue of taxation being diverted to the country in which the revenue was derived albeit a ridiculous sledgehammer for sole traders turning over less than the current UK VAT threshold - the petition to old Vince was to introduce the threshold to this sort of legislation but its not his governments law to tinker with.

This is necessary for fairness.