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Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:08 pm  
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You want to stay in Europe what does that mean for house prices it only means one thing - increases, simple economics supply and demand. You can build a lot more houses but where nobody seems to want to use green belt so let's congest our inner cities even more!! Social housing is an answer but where do you build it?

I agree with you on interest rates a gradual raising of interest rates will slow down/reduce borrowing but there are obvious consequences to that - a slow down/recession. Its not a time bomb it is much harder to get a mortgage than it was and negative equity is the issue it was as the days of 100% mortgages are not what they were.

Teachers you cannot exclude London from the average the minimum outside of London is c£23k so again I would suggest your £25k is well under stated.

NHS - I agree you either want the quality or you exclude certain areas as they did with Dentistry. Where do you draw the line or how much is enough. I would not be very keen to donate more so the NHS' customers can abuse it even more!! Wherever you have a view that a service is free then customers will equate that value. Perhaps if more was done to stop customer abuse the NHS e.g. people using A&E when a visit to a chemist would suffice, appointments not being kept etc. could run far more efficiently and wasted monies could be paid to the employees?

So are you suggesting surgeons should work more than the 37.5 hour week they are contracted, which I am sure most will do, just to stop them using their skills to enhance their own income. Perhaps you feel the same about what you do for a living?


Dont want to derail the Election thread but, staying in Europe with some controls on immigration, which, lets face it, is the only sensible way forward and the EU powerbrokers will eventually do something about it (assuming that the EU continues after the French and German elections).

House prices will continue to rise at a reasonable level, which is a good thing.
The "spike" in house pricing occurred long before EU immigration was "popular.

With some level of control on immigration and especially as we have now voted "out" there is every likelihood of some stability and maybe falling house prices - commercial property in London has already begun to fall.

Teachers pay scales are 22,467 - 33,180 outside London and 28,098 - 38241 in Greater London
Please explain how this can possibly equate to your "average pay" of £37,000 ?? and if you include teaching assistants in the figures the average would plummet.

Going back to surgeons, they should be properly paid to work solely in the NHS and not feel the need to do "outside work", the system is wrong.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:12 pm  
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Dont want to derail the Election thread but, staying in Europe with some controls on immigration, which, lets face it, is the only sensible way forward and the EU powerbrokers will eventually do something about it (assuming that the EU continues after the French and German elections).

House prices will continue to rise at a reasonable level, which is a good thing.
The "spike" in house pricing occurred long before EU immigration was "popular.

With some level of control on immigration and especially as we have now voted "out" there is every likelihood of some stability and maybe falling house prices - commercial property in London has already begun to fall.

Teachers pay scales are 22,467 - 33,180 outside London and 28,098 - 38241 in Greater London
Please explain how this can possibly equate to your "average pay" of £37,000 ?? and if you include teaching assistants in the figures the average would plummet.

Going back to surgeons, they should be properly paid to work solely in the NHS and not feel the need to do "outside work", the system is wrong.


Yes if you can pay the surgeons what they earn in private practise great but I doubt you will, especially given the fees are in the most part funded by private medical insurance - individual sacrificing to provide for themselves.

Teachers pay also includes department heads and head teachers - do you think that increases/decreases the average? Teaching assistants - why not include caretakers - come on get real.

How are you going to have controls and stay in the EEC - free movement of labour is one of the main pillars of the whole European project.

Agree about house pricing - simple supply and demand proposition. As I said if you reduce immigration you supress demand so prices will rise at a slower rate
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Re: General Election 8th June : Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:23 am  
So, May has refused to rule out removing the triple lock on pensions. I wonder how that will effect the decision of older voters, especially when you consider its the Tories main demographic.

Johnson goes all juvenile with personal attacks on Corbyn, as well as pretty much confirming the uk will increase their role in the Syrian war.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:37 am  
Johnson goes all juvenile with personal attacks on Corbyn


Was this deliberate and planned do you think or just another Johnsonism? He's probably the only MP that could get away with that in this day and age.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:14 am  
He never going to keep quiet for long the media love him as he's always good for a quote.

I'm not sure people take him seriously.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:55 am  
I can't help thinking that Johnson's affable idiot persona has been permanently damaged by his barefaced lies about the NHS during the Brexit campaign; the BBC and Sky news might hang on his every word, but I suspect the public might well be bored of his schtick.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:23 pm  
Johnson is one of the cleverest MP's under estimate him at your peril.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:26 pm  
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I can't help thinking that Johnson's affable idiot persona has been permanently damaged by his barefaced lies about the NHS during the Brexit campaign; the BBC and Sky news might hang on his every word, but I suspect the public might well be bored of his schtick.


It's worrying that May has chosen him as her Foreign Secretary, a role that usually requires high levels of diplomacy.
Boris is quite likeable but, he's the "school" clown and whilst he also appears to have a sharp mind, he just cant control his juvenile outbursts.

At least he's nor Prime Minister.
Can you imagine if we had ended up with the "dream ticket" of Farage and Boris !!
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Re: General Election 8th June : Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:20 am  
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Johnson is one of the cleverest MP's under estimate him at your peril.


He knows a lot but his judgement is very open to question.
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Re: General Election 8th June : Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:48 am  
With the pitiful growth figures for the first quarter that have been published today, perhaps May is trying to get 5 more years before the economy goes into reverse.

Some people rate her but she is a glorified wind bag, full of rhetoric but without any actions to back up her claims of a "fair" society.
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