Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:51 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

typical of the French Property info which has been a rip off since it's conception in it's various guises for a couple of decades providing false info,or at least 'incomplete' info to suit themselves and do their best to make properties in france over inflated by writing such drivel - I worked with this company indirectly for a few years so I do know a bit about about it - you can believe me or not...

I'm not sure what they stand to gain from misleading people on this hey.

sanjunien wrote:

The Carte Vitale was introduced to speed up and make more efficient the overall running of the CPAM or Social Security system - it does contain all the info required to get reimbursed more quickly at the same time taking out of circulation over 900 million pieces of paper annually from the french SS system !
The card ALSO contains details of treatment received by hospitals,doctors,dentists plus prescriptions over the past twelve months - FACT

I understood that any treatment notes were held in a database which the card was the key to.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

I'm not sure what they stand to gain from misleading people on this hey.

I understood that any treatment notes were held in a database which the card was the key to.

French Property News plus other culpable organs have a living to make and have made a lot of money trying to sell people their 'dream' in france - it's good business,even in a recession because people still buy the magazines to read about their dreams that they hope will come true,not to mention the fortune they are making from desperate sellers of properties who will advertise with these magazines or online sites with the hope (however slim nowadays) of actually getting any one interested in buying - the magazines are always upbeat and suggest a turn around is just around the corner....it's a big con - after spending a lot of time in the house selling business in france I can say,it is a big con...some of their articles are informative but a lot of it is badly put together by people who actually beileve they know about french affairs

treatment notes up to twelve months old are kept on the card and and the card acts as a key for anything further back which may be on the doctors or whoevers' computer files
cards have to be regularly updated at posts which can be found at hospitals and chemists

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:34 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

treatment notes up to twelve months old are kept on the card and and the card acts as a key for anything further back which may be on the doctors or whoevers' computer files
cards have to be regularly updated at posts which can be found at hospitals and chemists

Currently, general medical records are kept for a period of either 8 years after last treatment or 8 years after death. There are exceptions for such things like patients under the age of 18, maternity notes, blood transfusions and donor/transplant records (plus many more) which have to be kept a lot longer. When I left the NHS there were patient files that were current but dated back to the 60's, you can imagine the size of them. Never mind the extras that would go with them to make up the totality of a patients' notes.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:13 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Who pays the private companies? the same people who pay the union reps - so that's a red herring. Cut out the union officials and you have more money to spend on private companies to clean your hospitals.

You honestly think unions negotiate individual contracts for all NHS employees - I can see the surgeons requiring a half wit union official to do their bidding. The NHS like most large employers will have a salary structure with the appropriate breaks depending on qualifications and experience - your idea that union officials negotiate individual salaries is laughable. Who are the union officials negotiating with? they can't agree all million individual salaries with themselves.

Do you think if you removed all the union officials you would have anarchy and everyone would down tools?

If I ever murder someone please can someone remind me not to have Sal as the head of my defence as how anyone can miss so many blatantly clear points is beyond me!
He can work for the prosecution though as me getting away with it would be a breeze.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:29 pm  

Mintball wrote:

In my 'not-the-real-world', I have experienced redundancy (more than once), losing my home as a result of redundancy on one occasion, leaving my home and friends and moving most of the way down the country to find work. And then struggling for years to live somewhere decently and earn a decent living; being treated shoddily by more than one employer, being paid piss-poorly and spending years worrying about bills.

Don't be silly Minty.
I have been looking for work for 6 months just for a laugh.
I could have had a job at any time but thought not having one and the shortfall it causes was such a giggle.

[tb]

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:29 am  

Still, the private sector brings tangible benefits

Still, the private sector brings tangible benefits

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:26 pm  

I see Simon Burns (Min of State for Health) has called the nearly-a-million members of 38 degrees "Zombie-like" for their petitions about the NHS.
Mind you, I guess that's pretty tame really, he once called John Bercow something like "a sanctimonious little dwarf".

Nice chap, Mr Burns.
Obviously doesn't like people engaging with politics.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:12 am  

cod'ead wrote:

Oh, please point out just where in that link, there is an indication of any improvement in their performance.

performance-related bonuses

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:49 am  

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Ah yes, silly me.

How stupid for thinking they might be linked to an improvement in the performance of the end product: the education of the children, usually measured by improved examination results. you also conveniently forgot this bit: "or increased their pension, salary and bonus packages from the previous year."

Then we get to this bit:

"E-Act increased the number of academies it runs from seven to 11 over the year to August 2010. The charity now runs 14, including a free school.

A director of the Harris Federation earned £243,027 – a rise of £26,411 on the year before. The chain boosted its number of academies from seven to nine over the year, and now runs 13 in south London.

One member of staff at the Academies Enterprise Trust earned between £200,000 and £209,999. No member of staff had been in this pay bracket the previous year, the accounts show. The chain grew from three to six academies between August 2009 and the following year.

The United Learning Trust paid one of its staff between £180,000 and £190,000 in gross salary and bonuses. The chain increased the number of its academies from 14 to 17 between August 2009 and the following year."

Which suggests to me that they're remunerated for getting bigger, not better

[tb]

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:29 pm  

Meanwhile, the OECD says The last thing the NHS needs is a large reform as it is one of the world's best health systems and has been improving patient care for years (paraphrased, that's opening of the Guardian's report on the OECD report.) And while Lansley is still refusing to release the DoH risk assessment on his top down restructuring (despite being told to by the Information Commissioner), the London NHS quarterly risk assessment warns of the restructuring resulting in "preventable harm to children" and "unsafe maternity services". Evening Standard report here.

Meanwhile, the OECD says The last thing the NHS needs is a large reform as it is one of the world's best health systems and has been improving patient care for years (paraphrased, that's opening of the Guardian's report on the OECD report.) And while Lansley is still refusing to release the DoH risk assessment on his top down restructuring (despite being told to by the Information Commissioner), the London NHS quarterly risk assessment warns of the restructuring resulting in "preventable harm to children" and "unsafe maternity services". Evening Standard report here.