Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:39 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

You can always tell when someone is beaten. They resort to smileys and ignore the question.

Wish I had £1 for everytime I have seen it.

Bye bye, work shy.

You've been pushing for some time. One more like this – effectively bullying someone because they are disabled – and you will depart this entire site on a permanent ban.

I assume that that is straightforward enough for you to understand.

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:49 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You complete idiot - get a life, the last line is disgusting beyond description

I must say, I admire your response.

It does however reinforce my belief that the tory propaganda is working. They have deliberately set out on a path to get the non-elite classes (i.e. US), fighting among ourselves. We now have not only the middle classes railing against the "workshy poor", we've also got the working poor railing against the non-working poor. And all the while the elite continue coining it and managing to squirrel their money offshore without HMRC seeing a penny.

What chance does anyone really expect this government to close the offshore trust fund tax loopholes, when the Chancellor himself is the beneficiary of just such a scheme?

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:56 pm  

can I just point out, for a bit of balance, that he'll pay 50% tax on the 920K, and then capital gains tax on whatever proft he makes from the sale, so it isn't actually £920,000 in his pocket.

and he got a lot more last time around

now, back to the bickering..........

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:03 pm  

Standee wrote:

can I just point out, for a bit of balance, that he'll pay 50% tax on the 920K, and then capital gains tax on whatever proft he makes from the sale, so it isn't actually £920,000 in his pocket.

and he got a lot more last time around

now, back to the bickering..........

I know this might sound a bit simplistic, but if this bank is doing so well that it can afford to dish out bonuses to its management, then surely it can afford to send out some much needed rewards to its owners.....Us?

Close to a million might be asking too much, but at least a couple of grand to pay for my summer holiday, would come in extremely handy...

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:10 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I know this might sound a bit simplistic, but if this bank is doing so well that it can afford to dish out bonuses to its management, then surely it can afford to send out some much needed rewards to its owners.....Us?

Close to a million might be asking too much, but at least a couple of grand to pay for my summer holiday, would come in extremely handy...

it is doing better than it was, and the shareholders aren't the UK taxpayer, it's the government.

I am not saying the bonus is right, or justified, just pointing out that the gutter press of the left wing are making more of this than is true.

a bit like tomorrow when they will say the US has grown by 2.7% with no austerity measures, when in comparative terms it's actually 0.7% and they lost there AAA credit rating.

but balance and RLFans are rarely good bed fellows

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:11 pm  

Mintball wrote:

You've been pushing for some time. One more like this – effectively bullying someone because they are disabled – and you will depart this entire site on a permanent ban.

I assume that that is straightforward enough for you to understand.

Now i'm not defending XBrettKennyX or attacking Hull White Star in fact they are both immaterial names to my point but what is the difference between their exchanges and the constant attacking from all sides on Dally every day on every thread he posts in?

Are there levels of bullying or do disabled people count more?

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:13 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Now i'm not defending XBrettKennyX or attacking Hull White Star in fact they are both immaterial names to my point but what is the difference between their exchanges and the constant attacking from all sides on Dally every day on every thread he posts in?

Are there levels of bullying or do disabled people count more?

Well isn't it obvious.

Bullying is ok, if you don't agree with that persons opinions.

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:14 pm  

Standee wrote:

it is doing better than it was, and the shareholders aren't the UK taxpayer, it's the government.

I am not saying the bonus is right, or justified, just pointing out that the gutter press of the left wing are making more of this than is true.

a bit like tomorrow when they will say the US has grown by 2.7% with no austerity measures, when in comparative terms it's actually 0.7% and they lost there AAA credit rating.

but balance and RLFans are rarely good bed fellows

....Now, I'm confused....Who bankrolls the government?....Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think Cameron and his mates personally fund ventures like saving collasping banks?

Isn't government cash and taxpayers cash the same thing?....

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:15 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

It does however reinforce my belief that the tory propaganda is working. They have deliberately set out on a path to get the non-elite classes (i.e. US), fighting among ourselves. We now have not only the middle classes railing against the "workshy poor", we've also got the working poor railing against the non-working poor. And all the while the elite continue coining it and managing to squirrel their money offshore without HMRC seeing a penny.

What chance does anyone really expect this government to close the offshore trust fund tax loopholes, when the Chancellor himself is the beneficiary of just such a scheme?

You have an active imagination. A tad paranoid too.

Re: RBS bonuses - "Labour stitched us up" : Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:26 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Now i'm not defending XBrettKennyX or attacking Hull White Star in fact they are both immaterial names to my point but what is the difference between their exchanges and the constant attacking from all sides on Dally every day on every thread he posts in?

Are there levels of bullying or do disabled people count more?

Maybe attacking Dally's views (the whole point of debate?) is not as vulgar than attacking an individual's disabilities?

I agree some of the 'debates' with Dally get a bit OTT, but I don't believe it gets too personal.....You can't say the same about somebody attempting to belittle a contributor by mocking their disability??