Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:14 pm  

Cibaman wrote: I don't disagree with them finding in his favour. But they should have awarded him token damages. I think the defense suggested the price of the newspaper. Or perhaps a voucher for a swimming session at the Rebecca Adlington Swimming Centre. Live by the sword... Part of any damages award is punitive, how else are those who tend toward slander to be disuaded? As it is, Frankie Boyle has donated his award to Reprieve

Cibaman wrote: I don't disagree with them finding in his favour. But they should have awarded him token damages. I think the defense suggested the price of the newspaper. Or perhaps a voucher for a swimming session at the Rebecca Adlington Swimming Centre. Live by the sword... Part of any damages award is punitive, how else are those who tend toward slander to be disuaded? As it is, Frankie Boyle has donated his award to Reprieve

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:43 am  

Back to the plot, now we've got an international ref, Klattenburg, being investigated not only by the FA, but also ludicrously by the Met, for alleged 'racialist' language, yet whilst the implication is that he has said a Very Bad Thing, we are not allowed to know what it was.

By trawling the depths of the net the only thing I've seen reported is the term, "Spanish tart". Klattenburg has been charged with nothing so nothing is sub judice. The FA have powers to act, but my question is, and irrespective of whether this ref used that term or not, do we really have the money and the time and resources to prosecute a person for calling another person a "Spanish tart"?

If I go down to my local Nick and report that a bloke at the pub last night called me a "Spanish tart", is he going to get his collar felt? Should he? The courts could soon become rather busy.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:45 am  

FA, you will love this little story, which, on the basis of what is known, could be even better than that.

FA, you will love this little story, which, on the basis of what is known, could be even better than that.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:42 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Back to the plot, now we've got an international ref, Klattenburg, being investigated not only by the FA, but also ludicrously by the Met, for alleged 'racialist' language, yet whilst the implication is that he has said a Very Bad Thing, we are not allowed to know what it was.

By trawling the depths of the net the only thing I've seen reported is the term, "Spanish tart". Klattenburg has been charged with nothing so nothing is sub judice. The FA have powers to act, but my question is, and irrespective of whether this ref used that term or not, do we really have the money and the time and resources to prosecute a person for calling another person a "Spanish tart"?

If I go down to my local Nick and report that a bloke at the pub last night called me a "Spanish tart", is he going to get his collar felt? Should he? The courts could soon become rather busy.

If that's all he said then the whole thing is ridiculous, and I'm suspicious that the allegations just happen to have come from Chelsea.

Also, apparently the complaint to the Met was made by a lawyer who wasn't at the game, didn't watch it on tv and didn't listen to it on the radio. All he knows are the media reports.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:44 am  

Mintball wrote: FA, you will love this little story, which, on the basis of what is known, could be even better than that. I'm not surprised to be honest, I think there are too many police officers who push the boundaries of the law and relish taking on "easy prey".

Mintball wrote: FA, you will love this little story, which, on the basis of what is known, could be even better than that. I'm not surprised to be honest, I think there are too many police officers who push the boundaries of the law and relish taking on "easy prey".

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:01 pm  

Him wrote:

I'm not surprised to be honest, I think there are too many police officers who push the boundaries of the law and relish taking on "easy prey".

Not like the old days.

A mate of mine and his missus were well known to the local constabulary for the odd "domestic". One evening the local bobby (affectionately known as Fatty Friar) turned up with a green-as-grass new sidekick, in response to a neighbour's call about a "row next door". The discussion went along these lines:

Fatty Friar: Evening Raymond, is everything OK with you and Janice?

Ray: Yes Mr Friar, just the usual argument, that's all

Fatty Friar: (shouting through the doorway) Janice, is everything OK love?

Janice: Yes Mr Friar, Ray's just being an arsehole as usual, nothing to worry about

Young copper: Well I'm coming in to make sure everything's OK

Ray: Step one foot over that threshold and I'll lamp you

Fatty Friar: Janice has said she's OK, we've got other things to do, let's go

Young copper: I'm not botherd about other things, I'm going in

At that, he stepped into the hallway. Ray chinned him and he went arse over tit back into the garden. Faqtty Friar bent down to help his young colleague to his feet, looked at Ray and said: "It's tough but they've got to learn the hard way sometimes, give my love to Janice, g'night"

I'm certainly not condoning domestic violence but Ray & Janice each gave as good as they took, the community bobby knew them well and understood the relationship, the college kid didn't even know the law he was supposed to be upholding.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:50 am  

A serving police officer told me recently that his force is now under instruction that, when called to an alleged domestic violence incident, they must arrest one of the people at the address. They cannot leave the couple together overnight.

A good reason to keep the sound turned down if watching eastenders.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:33 am  

Cibaman wrote:

A serving police officer told me recently that his force is now under instruction that, when called to an alleged domestic violence incident, they must arrest one of the people at the address. They cannot leave the couple together overnight.

A good reason to keep the sound turned down if watching eastenders.

Forget the alleged domestic violence charge, I'd arrest them for watching Eastenders.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:56 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Forget the alleged domestic violence charge, I'd arrest them for watching Eastenders.

I find rugby union, Eastenders and The One Show offensive. I now expect Rob Andrew and the Controller of BBC1 to be arrested.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:16 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Forget the alleged domestic violence charge, I'd arrest them for watching Eastenders.

blimey mate, what's wrong with Eastenders my old china ?

better than all that Yorky Emmerdale poop ! - can't understand a word they say...