Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:43 pm  

Gareth1984 wrote:

The ISS Pro Series which later became PES (and is still known as Winning Eleven in japan) was a PS exclusive. From what I recall both the ISS Pro series and the Nintendo ISS games were developed by different studios within Konam andi it was the studio that did the Nintendo series that made the PS2 launch ISS game, which from what I recall was pretty terrible.

Correct, on all counts.
There's a difference between securing an exlusive title and completely owning the dev studio though.
I can't see Sony buying part of Konami, and I can't see Konami wanting to fragment its studio like that.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:49 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Correct, on all counts.
There's a difference between securing an exlusive title and completely owning the dev studio though.
I can't see Sony buying part of Konami, and I can't see Konami wanting to fragment its studio like that.

It depends how much Pro Evo sells these days. It used to be a big deal, but these days FIFA is such a gargantuan I'm not sure how many copies Pro Evo sells. If it's not selling it's value to Konami is reduced and it's price to Sony would also be reduced.

If Sony took over it and improved it, having the best football game as an exclusive would be a big deal.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:09 pm  

I think I will be purchasing PES 2012. I was sceptical at first, but 10 playthroughs later I'm completely sold. Going to be an expensive winter!

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:42 pm  

is there a demo for rugby challenge

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:38 am  

TFC wrote:

I think I will be purchasing PES 2012. I was sceptical at first, but 10 playthroughs later I'm completely sold. Going to be an expensive winter!

I'm tending to agree, I will get both PES and Fifa. Fifa for playing with my mates, PES for playing by myself offline. The more I've played PES, the better it's got, you learn more things, more ways to play passes, different crosses, different ways to attack crosses (diving headers, bicycle kicks, chest volleys, half volleys, etc.), it's class. I'm looking forward to getting my head around the defending. I've defended pretty much the same way on Fifa since the PS2 days (successfully, too), just jockey and hold circle to get the CPU to close down, when their player sprints, take it off him, simple. On PES, I've not been able to do this, so I've spent a lot of time chasing shadows, but I've also had some class moments, last gasp interceptions etc. it's been fun.

I actually hope Fifa's really good this year (obviously because I'm buying it) but so I can have a really good go at Ultimate Team. The Ultimate Team aspect is class and brings a proper fantasy footy feel to the game, I just got bored of the annoying game play.

I was looking at the PES menu the other day and was wondering what they Champions Leaague thing's about? Surely it's not just the Champions League? It would be fun I guess, but I hope it's integrated into some sort offline manager/career mode thing. (Is it still the Master League?)

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:32 am  

Roddy B wrote:

I'm tending to agree, I will get both PES and Fifa. Fifa for playing with my mates, PES for playing by myself offline. The more I've played PES, the better it's got, you learn more things, more ways to play passes, different crosses, different ways to attack crosses (diving headers, bicycle kicks, chest volleys, half volleys, etc.), it's class. I'm looking forward to getting my head around the defending. I've defended pretty much the same way on Fifa since the PS2 days (successfully, too), just jockey and hold circle to get the CPU to close down, when their player sprints, take it off him, simple. On PES, I've not been able to do this, so I've spent a lot of time chasing shadows, but I've also had some class moments, last gasp interceptions etc. it's been fun.

I actually hope Fifa's really good this year (obviously because I'm buying it) but so I can have a really good go at Ultimate Team. The Ultimate Team aspect is class and brings a proper fantasy footy feel to the game, I just got bored of the annoying game play.

I was looking at the PES menu the other day and was wondering what they Champions Leaague thing's about? Surely it's not just the Champions League? It would be fun I guess, but I hope it's integrated into some sort offline manager/career mode thing. (Is it still the Master League?)

Last year the Champions League mode was just that but it lasts a while and has everything thats official about the tournament, same for the Copa Libertadores too. Master League added an online feature too which was quality!

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:34 am  

I'm seriously thinking about getting Dead Island on Friday, its had good reviews but the PC version has had loads of problems though. Anyone know if its worth getting?

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:42 am  

I have only read the Eurogamer review and they gave it 6 out of 10, its one i will get, but will wait for a 2nd hand copy to become available.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:06 am  

Saint Viper wrote:

I have only read the Eurogamer review and they gave it 6 out of 10, its one i will get, but will wait for a 2nd hand copy to become available.

The couple of reviews I've seen gave it a 7 and an 8 but Edge mag gave it 3/10. I don't usually take notice of reviews though cos if I enjoy a game I'll play it, just very rare I spend 40 quid on one. Will see how I feel Friday!

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9 : Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:48 am  

Roddy B wrote:

I'm tending to agree, I will get both PES and Fifa. Fifa for playing with my mates, PES for playing by myself offline. The more I've played PES, the better it's got, you learn more things, more ways to play passes, different crosses, different ways to attack crosses (diving headers, bicycle kicks, chest volleys, half volleys, etc.), it's class. I'm looking forward to getting my head around the defending. I've defended pretty much the same way on Fifa since the PS2 days (successfully, too), just jockey and hold circle to get the CPU to close down, when their player sprints, take it off him, simple. On PES, I've not been able to do this, so I've spent a lot of time chasing shadows, but I've also had some class moments, last gasp interceptions etc. it's been fun.

I actually hope Fifa's really good this year (obviously because I'm buying it) but so I can have a really good go at Ultimate Team. The Ultimate Team aspect is class and brings a proper fantasy footy feel to the game, I just got bored of the annoying game play.

I was looking at the PES menu the other day and was wondering what they Champions Leaague thing's about? Surely it's not just the Champions League? It would be fun I guess, but I hope it's integrated into some sort offline manager/career mode thing. (Is it still the Master League?)

The lack of game modes offline is the main thing putting me off going near Pro Evo. On FIFA I spend loads of time playing manager mode (Even though it's been buggy in recent releases) and Ultimate Team. Both are said to be much improved this time around. That's without going near all the team and be a pro stuff. They have also added Football Club, which is supposidly just as addictive as Ultimate Team.

In Pro Evo you get disaster league. It really has been horrific on previous versions. It's like football for non football fans, take away all the licences and the 'rightness' that years of playing Football Manager and FIFA has ingrained into me as necessary and it just feels so hollow and fake. You could argue Ultimate Team is the same, but that's wrapped up so nicely with the card system and the online mode. Have they improved the manager/career mode on Pro Evo this time?

What is the online like on Pro Evo?