Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:57 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Oh no, it ain't nice. It ain't fun. But you're not the only individual who has been unemployed – you just happen to behave in a whinging, whining, pathetic, everybody-owes-me-a-living manner, while others actually try.

I think you'll find that your the one doing the whining in this thread. I'm just explaining how it is for me whilst you try your very best to provoke me into responding with god knows what because you seem to have some sort of a vendetta against me.

I look forward to the debate that you might have with LeighGionaire with regards to the Marx’s stuff because you have great opinions on that. But this debate between me and you is over until you can be more mature about it.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:03 pm  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

I think you'll find that your the one doing the whining in this thread. I'm just explaining how it is for me whilst you try your very best to provoke me into responding with god knows what because you seem to have some sort of a vendetta against me.

I look forward to the debate that you might have with LeighGionaire with regards to the Marx’s stuff because you have great opinions on that. But this debate between me and you is over until you can be more mature about it.

Aren't you the one that posted previously that he'd just been on a 3 day drinking bender? That's really actively looking for work....

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:04 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

It is only just beginning my friend.

Until the oil gets even more expensive, then we are all f**ked.

I'm not your friend.

Your point re the importance of oil is well taken. It is indeed the lubricant (pun intended) of economics. Never underestimate human ingenuity, however. If we put our minds to it, 95% of oil use could be avoided now. Sure it is less efficient, but it's entirely possible.

We won't be "f**ked" as you imply.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:09 pm  

Ignore the forum bullies Damo, they just enjoy wielding moral superiority over you on the internet because you're on the dole and in a vulnerable position.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:11 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Ignore the forum bullies Damo, they just enjoy wielding moral superiority over you on the internet because you're on the dole and in a vulnerable position.

Tend to agree.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:17 pm  

Bullpoop. I know what it's like to be on the dole, having recently spent 17 months unemployed, but never once did I have the attitude this whining waster had eg 3day drinking binge.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:20 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote: There are 3 fundamental issues with the economy imo. 1. It's too easy to get social welfare and we pay out too much. This dwarfs EVERYTHING else. If we cut this significantly we could build the best schools/roads/hospitals etc in the world. 2. The banks needs splitting up into retail banks, backed by the government (and therefore effectively us the taxpayers of the UK), limited to low risk activities, and investment banks backed by no-one, who should be allowed to please themselves. 3. Socialist dinosaurs need to wake up and smell the coffee. The age of "class struggle" (whatever that was) is over. We are competing in a global market and need to work together to ensure that we can do so. Have a read of Charles Moore, hardly a banner-waving leftie. The "free market" we have now is anything but free and capitalism serves only those who already have the majority of the capital

XBrettKennyX wrote: There are 3 fundamental issues with the economy imo. 1. It's too easy to get social welfare and we pay out too much. This dwarfs EVERYTHING else. If we cut this significantly we could build the best schools/roads/hospitals etc in the world. 2. The banks needs splitting up into retail banks, backed by the government (and therefore effectively us the taxpayers of the UK), limited to low risk activities, and investment banks backed by no-one, who should be allowed to please themselves. 3. Socialist dinosaurs need to wake up and smell the coffee. The age of "class struggle" (whatever that was) is over. We are competing in a global market and need to work together to ensure that we can do so. Have a read of Charles Moore, hardly a banner-waving leftie. The "free market" we have now is anything but free and capitalism serves only those who already have the majority of the capital

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:22 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

I'm not your friend.

Your point re the importance of oil is well taken. It is indeed the lubricant (pun intended) of economics. Never underestimate human ingenuity, however. If we put our minds to it, 95% of oil use could be avoided now. Sure it is less efficient, but it's entirely possible.

We won't be "f**ked" as you imply.

Those at the top won't be, that's for sure. The rest of us will fight it out amongst ourselves.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:29 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Those at the top won't be, that's for sure. The rest of us will fight it out amongst ourselves.

Oh grow up Wolfie!

Your time is over, along with the rest of the Communists.

Communism was tried, it failed.

Look at Russia now vs 20 years ago

Look at China now vs 10 years ago.

What have they all got in common?

1. Capitalism
2. Massively increased economies and living standards

If you want to carry on knitting yoghurt, then please yourself, but do not try the socialist nonsense argument as it simply doesn't work.

Re: UK unemployment rises to 2.68m : Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:30 pm  

cod'ead wrote: Have a read of Charles Moore, hardly a banner-waving leftie. The "free market" we have now is anything but free and capitalism serves only those who already have the majority of the capital The Free market is far from perfect..........it's just way better than any alternative known to man. Or what do YOU suggest?

cod'ead wrote: Have a read of Charles Moore, hardly a banner-waving leftie. The "free market" we have now is anything but free and capitalism serves only those who already have the majority of the capital The Free market is far from perfect..........it's just way better than any alternative known to man. Or what do YOU suggest?