Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:08 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

Its a slightly different scenario - the car crash ambulance charges are only made because insurers are usually involved and where there is a company accepting liability then there are charges.

In the case of an individuals health choices you could make the same argument for so many extremes and abuses, cigarettes, diet, sports, etc, etc and the counter argument is that we've already paid for the NHS, you can't charge us again for using what we've already insured against (thats why its call National Insurance).

Take that on board mate. Next time Im at the Dentist and Opticians ill tell them Ive paid for the treatment in my NI.

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:14 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

Its a slightly different scenario - the car crash ambulance charges are only made because insurers are usually involved and where there is a company accepting liability then there are charges.

In the case of an individuals health choices you could make the same argument for so many extremes and abuses, cigarettes, diet, sports, etc, etc and the counter argument is that we've already paid for the NHS, you can't charge us again for using what we've already insured against (thats why its call National Insurance).

In the case of my waste of space nephew and his fellow alky scrotebag mates, none of them have done a days work in their lives, but have been on expensive rehab treatments and within days are back on the pi$$. He received a nice increase in his benefits not so long back as his consultant said he was never likely to be fit enough to work and the DSS doctor agreed. The last thing he needs is more bloody money to kill himself with.

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:25 pm  

Theres no way a minimum price imposition for any goods including alcohol would be legal under EU law. It's entirely anti competitive. The only legal way they could increase the price across the board would be imposition of a duty per unit.

[Kosh]

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:48 pm  

fargrange1 wrote:

After all you get charged for an ambulance in a car crash.

They tried that on me when I was injured in an RTA a few years ago. I flat out refused to pay and in the end they gave up.

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:01 pm  

fargrange1 wrote:

Take that on board mate. Next time Im at the Dentist and Opticians ill tell them Ive paid for the treatment in my NI.

In the case of the dentist and optician you are getting an NI subsidy for your treatment, for the dentist its substantial and completely controlled, at the opticians if you can remember what the NHS optical services used to be like then its one of the more successful privatisations of an NHS provision.

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:15 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

In the case of the dentist and optician you are getting an NI subsidy for your treatment, for the dentist its substantial and completely controlled, at the opticians if you can remember what the NHS optical services used to be like then its one of the more successful privatisations of an NHS provision.

I see people everyday who are paying an obvious fortune for what, in effect, is actually a pair of souped-up clinic glasses

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:17 pm  

There is a poster of the female persuasion on these very boards, who has personal experience of a family member drinking himself to death at an early age. It would be interesting to see if she reckons he possibly could have been effectively priced out of his habit

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:23 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

There is a poster of the female persuasion on these very boards, who has personal experience of a family member drinking himself to death at an early age. It would be interesting to see if she reckons he possibly could have been effectively priced out of his habit

doubt it mate - it doesn't really work with fags & drugs for the majority IMO

if someone wants whatever 'fix' then that person will usually pay or the privilege

it's like petrol prices - people will always pay the price if it remains the practical way to get around,they will just keep their cars a bit longer or buy second hand each time instead of buying new

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:15 pm  

rover49 wrote:

In the case of my waste of space nephew ........................ The last thing he needs is more bloody money to kill himself with.

It would do us all a favour. He dies, benefits can be used for somebody else, one less 2@. Everyones a winner.

Re: The Budget 2012 : Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:47 am  

peggy wrote:

It would do us all a favour. He dies, benefits can be used for somebody else, one less 2@. Everyones a winner.

I would rather them remove his money so he cannot kill himself. Not everyone would win, my sister, his brother and his two kids would lose out.