Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:05 pm  

Regarding Brexiteers, I believe they will get what they deserve,

Which is what exactly? Will it be any different to what the remainers get?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:08 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

Regarding Brexiteers, I believe they will get what they deserve, though that may not be what they actually want or "think" what they are going to get.

They'll get a stronger country with significantly more control of its own destiny. It is the 5th largest economy in the world surely its strong enough to survive out in the big bad world. It has only been in the EEC for 40 years of what is a long and illustrious past.

I cannot understand all the doom and gloom - all businesses face challenges are UK PLC is no different - can it change direction and move forward yes it bl00dy well can. The talent in this country is immense why everyone thinks Europe is the key to its prosperity defies belief. This is a great country filled with supremely innovate people - have some faith.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:26 am  

I didn't want to leave, but when you see the behaviour of other "leaders" in Europe it seems like all we're doing is growing a pair and leaving a gang of bullies. 2 years to leave a club, that's worse than cancelling a Sky contract!

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:47 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

They'll get a stronger country with significantly more control of its own destiny. It is the 5th largest economy in the world surely its strong enough to survive out in the big bad world. It has only been in the EEC for 40 years of what is a long and illustrious past.

I cannot understand all the doom and gloom - all businesses face challenges are UK PLC is no different - can it change direction and move forward yes it bl00dy well can. The talent in this country is immense why everyone thinks Europe is the key to its prosperity defies belief. This is a great country filled with supremely innovate people - have some faith.

Having just got back from France and seen the different perspective on French TV, you sir are in cuckoo land.
We have no choice other than to get on with it but, Farage and his gang, fighting their own agenda have hoodwinked the UK electorate and made 52% of those who voted, believe that we can leave the EU penalty free, with a free trade agreement and all of the benefits of being outside the EU.
Sorry but, unless the EU implodes, the "United" Kingdom is going to get one hell of a bloody nose and the EU will play the "long game" which is likely to leave the UK with the option of taking a crap deal.
We may have the 5th largest economy in the world but, much of this is based on the financial sector which, will slowly disappear to the EU.
Why on earth would they pay the UK fo financial services that they can carry out "themselves".

The Germans and French think that Christmas has come early.

The country was great 150 years ago and we are now a nation of shopkeepers.
As far as supremely innovative goes, yes, there are some very clever people in the UK but, you show me a brilliant Englishman and there will be 1000 Chinese people who are just as clever.

The problem with Brexit is that the "older" generation remember when we had a strong manufacturing base but, this has been "dead" for the last 40 years, destroyed by Thatchers dream.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:51 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Having just got back from France and seen the different perspective on French TV, you sir are in cuckoo land.
We have no choice other than to get on with it but, Farage and his gang, fighting their own agenda have hoodwinked the UK electorate and made 52% of those who voted, believe that we can leave the EU penalty free, with a free trade agreement and all of the benefits of being outside the EU.
Sorry but, unless the EU implodes, the "United" Kingdom is going to get one hell of a bloody nose and the EU will play the "long game" which is likely to leave the UK with the option of taking a crap deal.
We may have the 5th largest economy in the world but, much of this is based on the financial sector which, will slowly disappear to the EU.
Why on earth would they pay the UK fo financial services that they can carry out "themselves".

The Germans and French think that Christmas has come early.

The country was great 150 years ago and we are now a nation of shopkeepers.
As far as supremely innovative goes, yes, there are some very clever people in the UK but, you show me a brilliant Englishman and there will be 1000 Chinese people who are just as clever.

The problem with Brexit is that the "older" generation remember when we had a strong manufacturing base but, this has been "dead" for the last 40 years, destroyed by Thatchers dream.

Add in the fact that the majority of what manufacturing we have is foreign owned, even the Premier League is 90% foreign financed. French companies control our utilities, we buy German/Japanese cars, we make trains but the companies aren't British/English.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:46 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Add in the fact that the majority of what manufacturing we have is foreign owned, even the Premier League is 90% foreign financed. French companies control our utilities, we buy German/Japanese cars, we make trains but the companies aren't British/English.

These issues are real but in or out of the EU is a side show to them.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:46 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Add in the fact that the majority of what manufacturing we have is foreign owned, even the Premier League is 90% foreign financed. French companies control our utilities, we buy German/Japanese cars, we make trains but the companies aren't British/English.

These issues are real but in or out of the EU is a side show to them.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:48 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Add in the fact that the majority of what manufacturing we have is foreign owned, even the Premier League is 90% foreign financed. French companies control our utilities, we buy German/Japanese cars, we make trains but the companies aren't British/English.

So, is this a help or hinderance, you haven't said ?
As I suggested, Thatchers ideal, was to allow the "market" to rule everything, which meant stepping aside and allowing overseas companies to buy buy into UK Plc.
Any country should have control over their utilities (just in case they fall out with others) but, we haven't given a damn about this or about our manufacturing base.
Sure, car manufacturing is doing really well but, it's foreign owned and in times of adversity, this leaves us vulnerable.

THE major worry for the UK is the Financial services sector and bearing in mind the huge amounts of European Monies that are processed over here, it wont be too long before this drifts across the Channel.

At least India is offering a trade deal.....................as long as we allow greater free movement of their 1 billion population towards the UK.
Mr Farage, you have so much to answer for

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:49 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Add in the fact that the majority of what manufacturing we have is foreign owned, even the Premier League is 90% foreign financed. French companies control our utilities, we buy German/Japanese cars, we make trains but the companies aren't British/English.

So, is this a help or hinderance, you haven't said ?
As I suggested, Thatchers ideal, was to allow the "market" to rule everything, which meant stepping aside and allowing overseas companies to buy buy into UK Plc.
Any country should have control over their utilities (just in case they fall out with others) but, we haven't given a damn about this or about our manufacturing base.
Sure, car manufacturing is doing really well but, it's foreign owned and in times of adversity, this leaves us vulnerable.

THE major worry for the UK is the Financial services sector and bearing in mind the huge amounts of European Monies that are processed over here, it wont be too long before this drifts across the Channel.

At least India is offering a trade deal.....................as long as we allow greater free movement of their 1 billion population towards the UK.
Mr Farage, you have so much to answer for

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:51 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

Add in the fact that the majority of what manufacturing we have is foreign owned, even the Premier League is 90% foreign financed. French companies control our utilities, we buy German/Japanese cars, we make trains but the companies aren't British/English.

So, is this a help or hinderance, you haven't said ?
As I suggested, Thatchers ideal, was to allow the "market" to rule everything, which meant stepping aside and allowing overseas companies to buy buy into UK Plc.
Any country should have control over their utilities (just in case they fall out with others) but, we haven't given a damn about this or about our manufacturing base.
Sure, car manufacturing is doing really well but, it's foreign owned and in times of adversity, this leaves us vulnerable.

THE major worry for the UK is the Financial services sector and bearing in mind the huge amounts of European Monies that are processed over here, it wont be too long before this drifts across the Channel.

At least India is offering a trade deal.....................as long as we allow greater free movement of their 1 billion population towards the UK.
Mr Farage, you have so much to answer for