Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:41 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Nothing there which contradicts Genesis.

Other than it demonstrates real life examples of the evolution you claim is a bum theory, no.

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:07 pm  

christopher wrote:

Always amazes me how obsessed many religious types are with other people's sex lives.

Oh, it's quite extraordinary.

I remember getting that issue drummed into me during my father's little dinner table sermonettes. Utterly obsessed.

Perhaps it's because, let's face it, few people will do anything like murder someone else, so for those obsessed with concepts of sin, you have to pick something to concentrate on that will actually affect most people.

I don't think my father has ever preached a sermon about 'thou shalt not kill', but 'the sins of the flesh' have been at the heart of a more than a few.

And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:31 pm  

Mintball wrote:

And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.

Thank fook I stick to Weetabix and am still bashing the head off it.

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:33 pm  

Mintball wrote:

And then you get hilariously bonkers things like Seventh Dat Adventist John Harvey Kellogg, who created cornflakes as part of his drive to make the US vegetarian, and stop masturbation.

How do cornflakes prevent masturbation? Pack them under the foreskin, perhaps?

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:49 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

God turned his perfect creation into a rotten, violent world as a judgment on our sin.

So, to clarify:

'God' said, "Don't eat the apples from that special tree."

Man then ate the apples from the special tree.

God then turns some previously herbivorous animals into carnivores (presumably with concomitant adjustments to their teeth/digestive systems etc), as a judgement on the fact that the offending apple was consumed?

I don't get it. Why would altering the dietary habits of non-human species be any kind of judgement on the sins of man?

"Yeah, that'll teach you, you wankers, I'm gonna make this T-Rex eat a Triceratops."

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:12 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

So, to clarify:

'God' said, "Don't eat the apples from that special tree."

Man then ate the apples from the special tree.

God then turns some previously herbivorous animals into carnivores (presumably with concomitant adjustments to their teeth/digestive systems etc), as a judgement on the fact that the offending apple was consumed?

I don't get it. Why would altering the dietary habits of non-human species be any kind of judgement on the sins of man?

"Yeah, that'll teach you, you wankers, I'm gonna make this T-Rex eat a Triceratops."

You forgot the talking snake. In creationist terms, when was that invented? I mean, we've now been told that animals are animals, but when did god make conversational animals, capable of tricking his top prototypes into disobeying the one poxy rule he'd made?

How smart were it's parents? Or was a human snake just a beta, which never went into production due to being a mere snake, but smarter than the unreliable made-in-god's-image production models?

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:51 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

When Adam and Eve disobeyed God, death entered the world. Before the fall there was no death.

And there, right there is another anomaly - that just can't be true.

You have a God who has just created a whole new world and manufactured all sorts of stuff to fill it with, and then given all of that stuff the ability to reproduce itself, which he definitely did because apparently thats in the bible too, the bit about "begatting people", but he didn't think it through, at all.

Which is unusual for a perfect being, not thinking the plan through to its logical conclusion, don't you think ?

You see I heard a statement the other day that of all the humans EVER born at ANY time in the worlds history, 20% of them are alive on earth today, one in five of every child that has ever been born is part of earths current live population.

Can you imagine what it would be like now if the other four fifths had never died ?

And all of us wandering around pointing at those red round things that grow on trees and wondering what they taste like.

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:51 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

You forgot the talking snake. In creationist terms, when was that invented? I mean, we've now been told that animals are animals, but when did god make conversational animals, capable of tricking his top prototypes into disobeying the one poxy rule he'd made?

How smart were it's parents? Or was a human snake just a beta, which never went into production due to being a mere snake, but smarter than the unreliable made-in-god's-image production models?

Kirkstaller will be able to fill you in. He was probably the work of the devil, or some shit.

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:56 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

And there, right there is another anomaly - that just can't be true.

You have a God who has just created a whole new world and manufactured all sorts of stuff to fill it with, and then given all of that stuff the ability to reproduce itself, which he definitely did because apparently thats in the bible too, the bit about "begatting people", but he didn't think it through, at all.

Which is unusual for a perfect being, not thinking the plan through to its logical conclusion, don't you think ?

But then, if we accept that 'God' is omniscient (as the Bible would have us believe he is), he must have known that man would eat the apple before he even fashioned the poor bastard from a lump of clay. So he created a being in his own image, gave that being a test he knew it would fail, then proceeded to punish him (and the dinosaurs) for that failure. Which means that 'God' is not only rather dim, but a bit of an unpleasant sort of chap as well.

[Kosh]

Re: OMG - Christian wins employment tribunal : Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:13 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

Kirkstaller will be able to fill you in. He was probably the work of the devil, or some shit.

He was the actual devil. In disguise. If I remember the little of the Bible I've ever read correctly.