Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:10 pm  

Boris Johnson took Trumps lead for the month of February and sat on his ample backside and did nothing but talk coronavirus down and protect his crony capitalist pals in the boardroom and stock market.
As Cummings said, who gives a toss about a few thousand pensioners.

I already know of solicitors assembling class action stratagem against this shocking Boris Johnson government for negligence.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:17 pm  

This is worth a look from an american surgeon, last 5 mins is a bit repetitive tho. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM

This is worth a look from an american surgeon, last 5 mins is a bit repetitive tho. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:17 pm  

Superblue wrote:

And Santa Claus Suni shuffles another £10 billion quid into his Tory vote base slush fund

This time for the £150 grand a year self employed tax avoiding company directors working as limited companies for the last 10 years.

whose £3 grand a year accountants pay them minimum wage to avoid income tax, and have trouser the rest in dividends at 10% tax, thus avoiding 25% corporation tax.

And not forgetting their wives who they employ as so called company secretaries, again tax free.

Fill yer boots time lads

A company isn’t allowed to pay dividends if it doesn’t make a profit. If it makes a profit it pays corporation tax, then it can pay dividends.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:20 pm  

Cronus wrote:

South Korea manufacture the tests. They have 5 factories dedicated to it, just as some UK companies are switching to the same task. Yes of course in your brain there should have been millions of tests immediately available despite every nation on the planet frantically trying to buy them, but you appear to be living in cloud cuckoo land.

So you think all airports should have been closed immediately? Yes, you could seal off the country, but how long for? There will be no vaccine until perhaps 2021. And it was probably already here given the tens of thousands Chinese students who travelled home and back over the Christmas break, similarly all those who travelled to Northern Italy early in the year. With a high R0 it was already spreading.

We could have locked down immediately - but again, how long for? A year? To what purpose? No-one leaves their house for what, 6 months? All the while the virus is spreading globally and is not going to go away. Then we open up again with no vaccine? Have a think about that.

Ask yourself - how long can South Korea and others stay locked down? What happens when their population - that has not been widely exposed - starts moving again? Another outbreak, back to square one.

No, you cannot escape this. The only strategy is a managed spread, allowing a significant percentage of the population to be infected in order to build widespread immunity, which is what we are doing. "Flattening the curve". It's not nice and people will die but if it comes back in cannot spread anywhere near as quickly or widely and the NHS will not be as overwhelmed as it is about to be. I'm not actually sure why I'm bothering to try and explain this again, you're either incapable of understanding or are too biased.

And I'm sure you think we should have 20,000 ventilators and associated equipment, as well as masks, gloves, etc just sitting in storage? Bearing in mind many of these items degrade over time and become useless. The fact is, every nation is ill-equipped for this and yes, doctors all over the world will have to prioritise those who will die anyway, over those with more chance of survival. Those are the stark realities of a novel pandemic, not the comfortable entitled world we've all been living in so far.

BTW it's already reached my family. My sister's husband was horrifically ill for over a week. Fortunately her family are symptom-free so far. My family and I are in day 12 of isolation for various reasons. I actually suspect (and hope) we've had it although very mild, but it's a chance I cannot take. But if we haven't had it and in about 6-8 weeks things start moving again and we all go back to work, we'll be much safer with a largely immune population around us. Do you get it yet?

That's pretty well put.

The only part of the Governments strategy that seemed wrong at the time and more so with the benefit of hindsight, was allowing people to travel freely overseas to anywhere they chose.
Absolutely crazy in the circumstances.
Maybe this was in the vain hope of protecting the Airlines but, if so, it clearly didn't work.

Politically speaking, the only other area where we have been "caught short", is with the lack of nurses etc within the NHS, which is largely down to government policy over the last 10 years.
Also, the audacity for Johnson to extol the virtues of the NHS and the staff working within it, after his government froze the wages and cut the bursaries (which is why there is such a shortage), is borderline sick - the two faced b'stard.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:24 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Boris Johnson took Trumps lead for the month of February and sat on his ample backside and did nothing but talk coronavirus down and protect his crony capitalist pals in the boardroom and stock market.
As Cummings said, who gives a toss about a few thousand pensioners.

I already know of solicitors assembling class action stratagem against this shocking Boris Johnson government for negligence.

Protect his pals in the stock market? Check out the uk stock market at the onset of the outbreak of the pandemic. Then have a look at the market as it stands at the moment.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:29 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Boris Johnson took Trumps lead for the month of February and sat on his ample backside and did nothing but talk coronavirus down and protect his crony capitalist pals in the boardroom and stock market.
As Cummings said, who gives a toss about a few thousand pensioners.

I already know of solicitors assembling class action stratagem against this shocking Boris Johnson government for negligence.

Oh dear, no such thing in the UK, jog on troll.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:41 pm  

Superblue wrote:

This time for the £150 grand a year self employed tax avoiding company directors working as limited companies for the last 10 years.

legally, as it was under Labour

whose £3 grand a year accountants pay them minimum wage to avoid income tax, and have trouser the rest in dividends at 10% tax, thus avoiding 25% corporation tax.

corporation tax has been 24%, or lower, since 2012, and income tax is paid on dividends after they are drawn, which cannot be done before profit,after Corporation Tax

And not forgetting their wives who they employ as so called company secretaries, again tax free.
no, not tax free, and wouldn't get dividends unless a shareholder

Fill yer boots time lads

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:55 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote: Protect his pals in the stock market? Check out the uk stock market at the onset of the outbreak of the pandemic. Then have a look at the market as it stands at the moment. Indeed, unless Boris and his mates are invested in Orange concentrate...

Backwoodsman wrote: Protect his pals in the stock market? Check out the uk stock market at the onset of the outbreak of the pandemic. Then have a look at the market as it stands at the moment. Indeed, unless Boris and his mates are invested in Orange concentrate...

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:57 pm  

Trust all the NHS staff and key workers are all getting £5k a day Danger Money off this Shyster capitalist joke show

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:10 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Trust all the NHS staff and key workers are all getting £5k a day Danger Money off this Shyster capitalist joke show

you're not responding to the numerous posts saying you are wrong then?

figures, I think you see trolling as exercise, wish you'd stick to once a day.