Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:57 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

... The Holocaust was a systematic attempt to wipe a race of people out ...

Actually, if you want to be accurate, the victims of the Holocaust were not just from one race/religion. Approximately a quarter of those who went to the camps and the gas chambers went for other reasons.

Unfortunately, all too often, they get forgotten.

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:00 pm  

Dally wrote:

Don't know why everyone gets so worked up. Leave them to sort their own affairs out and let's look after our own country.

If Israel is as bad as people say they will inevitably have sown the seeds for their own destruction by angered parties. So, let them get on with it - either they will all learn to live in harmony or the position will resolve itself the hard way over time. History suggests the latter.

We all know that's not going to happen though. Israel will be allowed to flout international law indefinitely, and when (if) they're attacked, the US and UK will come piling in like Israel are the wronged party.

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:01 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

What do you want, ethical and consistent foreign policy?

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:37 pm  

thought the argument would go as it has OK to explain my point http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... ofcitizen/ I have had several issues in explaining this to neighbours from the area I mentioned who point to others who have had not had the same. In other words, lets's not assume the world sees us as so blameless we can criticise from a safe position.

thought the argument would go as it has OK to explain my point http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... ofcitizen/ I have had several issues in explaining this to neighbours from the area I mentioned who point to others who have had not had the same. In other words, lets's not assume the world sees us as so blameless we can criticise from a safe position.

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:02 pm  

Hillbilly_Red wrote: thought the argument would go as it has OK to explain my point http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... ofcitizen/ I have had several issues in explaining this to neighbours from the area I mentioned who point to others who have had not had the same. In other words, lets's not assume the world sees us as so blameless we can criticise from a safe position. No reference on that page to India (which is what your original post suggested).

Hillbilly_Red wrote: thought the argument would go as it has OK to explain my point http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... ofcitizen/ I have had several issues in explaining this to neighbours from the area I mentioned who point to others who have had not had the same. In other words, lets's not assume the world sees us as so blameless we can criticise from a safe position. No reference on that page to India (which is what your original post suggested).

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:04 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

We all know that's not going to happen though. Israel will be allowed to flout international law indefinitely

Including something like 60 (I'm ready to be corrected) UN resolutions that they've ignored

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:14 pm  

Dally wrote:

Don't know why everyone gets so worked up. Leave them to sort their own affairs out and let's look after our own country...

I think that, what with the US supplying Israel with cash and weapons, they are not being left to their own devices.
But thanks for that deeply moral response

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:22 pm  

I was told (don't know how true this is) if we and the Americans just stopped supporting and supplying Israel overnight, then some of the Arab states would almost certainly declare war on them not long after.

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:33 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

But thanks for that deeply moral response

Would you know what "deeply moral" was if you fell into it?

Re: All animals are equal... : Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:44 pm  

Dally wrote:

Would you know what "deeply moral" was if you fell into it?

I would suggest that someone who quotes endlessly from the Daily Mail would definitely struggle with "moral".