Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:11 pm  

Dally wrote:

... So, again it comes back to political decision making.

So your comment about public service inefficiency was just your usual whinging claptrap.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:18 pm  

Mintball wrote:

So your comment about public service inefficiency was just your usual whinging claptrap.

I was bowing to your superior knowledge of these matters by saying that HMRC, that great bastion of public service, will doubtless be pursuing these companies of which you speak with great alacrity and purpose.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:44 pm  

Dally wrote:

I was bowing to your superior knowledge of these matters by saying that HMRC, that great bastion of public service, will doubtless be pursuing these companies of which you speak with great alacrity and purpose.

No. You were having your usual pathetic little whinge about public services – which you instantly contradicted by pointing out the matter of political will.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:04 pm  

Mintball wrote:

No. You were having your usual pathetic little whinge about public services – which you instantly contradicted by pointing out the matter of political will.

No. I was sarcastically pointing out that if they are not paying what's due it is down to the inefficiency or incompetence of certain of your beloved public sector workers.


As to the thread, yes Marxism is back and has never gone away. It has been rampant these last 20 years in the banks - where the directors have acted as though they were running workers co-operatives by paying out disproportionate levels of remuneration to their colleagues rather than to shareholders and / or leaving working capital in the businesses (which could have prevented nationalistation, the formalised acknlowledgement of their socialism).

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:30 pm  

Dally wrote:

How are we as a society going to deal with the care and health needs of an ageing population?

What was it the bloke who introduced welfare system said?? something like, from each according to his/her means, to each according to his/her needs. Think this might still work if it's applied properly.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:41 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

What was it the bloke who introduced welfare system said?? something like, from each according to his/her means, to each according to his/her needs. Think this might still work if it's applied properly.

If you read my post above, the problem is that may not be possible.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:06 pm  

Dally wrote:

No. I was sarcastically pointing out that if they are not paying what's due it is down to the inefficiency or incompetence of certain of your beloved public sector workers.


As to the thread, yes Marxism is back and has never gone away. It has been rampant these last 20 years in the banks - where the directors have acted as though they were running workers co-operatives by paying out disproportionate levels of remuneration to their colleagues rather than to shareholders and / or leaving working capital in the businesses (which could have prevented nationalistation, the formalised acknlowledgement of their socialism).

Try thing and posting with your brain cell instead of your backside. It'll make an interesting change.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:21 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Try thing and posting with your brain cell instead of your backside. It'll make an interesting change.

Thing?

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:51 pm  

Dally wrote:

If you read my post above, the problem is that may not be possible.

Its possible alright. The means are still there, it's the desire that probably isn't.

Re: Marxism back again : Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:46 pm  

Didn't we have this thread last week? and the week before, ad infinitum

Although I'm impressed with Dally's attempt at equating bankers greed with Marxism, that's pretty good even by his standards.