Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:40 pm  

Dally wrote:

Why not if those texts prescribe a sensible way of living that has served the country well for centuries?

It's hugely tempting, but I'm not getting into that lest this thread goes the way of so many others just recently. Suffice it to say that it's difficult enough to enact legislation that is well-drafted and fit for purpose, without the added complication of pandering to superstition and dogma. Let's not forget that the CofE are still trying to oppress groups of people based on their religious texts, as well as making crass (at best) statements in the press about how certain natural events are God's punishment for homosexuality and whatnot. Such people should be nowhere near the legislative process.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:12 pm  

Randomly select the House of Lords from all adults in the UK. It would be as fair as the sperm lottery and the political ar$e licking that decides who's in there now.

If you want a HoL that represents all the people, select it from all the people. And if that means we have Kirkstaller and Dave Titan in there then so be it.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:49 pm  

DHM wrote:

Randomly select the House of Lords from all adults in the UK. It would be as fair as the sperm lottery and the political ar$e licking that decides who's in there now.

If you want a HoL that represents all the people, select it from all the people. And if that means we have Kirkstaller and Dave Titan in there then so be it.

How on Earth is the average, semi-literate Chav going to review and comment on complex legislation, innit?

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:55 pm  

Dally wrote:

How on Earth is the average, semi-literate Chav going to review and comment on complex legislation, innit?

Legislation shouldn't be so complex that your "average" anyone cannot understand it - the current incumbents in the HoL will include many who could not read from one end of a white paper to the other and describe what it is they've just read.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:20 pm  

Dally wrote:

How on Earth is the average, semi-literate Chav going to review and comment on complex legislation, innit?

On the matter of literacy, semi or otherwise, 'chav' is not a proper noun.

And you're probably right: after all, you don't appear to know that Marxism is not a synonym for Leninism.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:32 pm  

Mintball wrote:

On the matter of literacy, semi or otherwise, 'chav' is not a proper noun.

It is in Leeds.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:36 pm  

What percentage chav are you (answer honestly)? http://chavstest.com/

What percentage chav are you (answer honestly)? http://chavstest.com/

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:55 pm  

Dally wrote:

How on Earth is the average, semi-literate Chav going to review and comment on complex legislation, innit?

Like I said, if we get Dave Titan, we get Dave Titan.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:59 pm  

Dally wrote: What percentage chav are you (answer honestly)? http://chavstest.com/ 22% - I am from Gipton though so that's pretty low. I see nothing wrong with own brand beans or shopping at Co-op - in fact I proposed to my wife outside the Co-op. I have never had a pot noodle though.

Dally wrote: What percentage chav are you (answer honestly)? http://chavstest.com/ 22% - I am from Gipton though so that's pretty low. I see nothing wrong with own brand beans or shopping at Co-op - in fact I proposed to my wife outside the Co-op. I have never had a pot noodle though.

Re: House of Lords reform : Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:09 pm  

DHM wrote:

22% - I am from Gipton though so that's pretty low. I see nothing wrong with own brand beans or shopping at Co-op - in fact I proposed to my wife outside the Co-op.

I have never had a pot noodle though.

I got 26% - Had a couple of Pot Noodles once and have been to the Co-op!