Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:34 pm  

It's a wonder he didn't just admit to the jury that 'red mist mode' suddenly came over him.
Seems it was a good enough excuse for his superiors in the past!

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:22 am  

Truth is, only the people involved know all the facts of Tomlinson's previous behaviour so it isn't relevant to this particular tragedy, it's just the scum bag press pouring petrol on a fire. Hitting someone on the leg and then giving him a good shove, wouldn't normally lead to anything more than maybe bruising. To me it seems a rotten, horrible event in which everyone involved is some sort of victim. As for the riot car killers, the judge blamed evidence given by a detective as being close to perjury, in that he had lied about the fact that witnesses for the prosecution had been offered immunity from prosecution, subsequently telling the jury that they should regard what these witnesses had said with suspicion. This wiped out the prosecution case. What surprises me is that there hasn't been a bigger outcry over this.

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:55 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

Truth is, only the people involved know all the facts of Tomlinson's previous behaviour so it isn't relevant to this particular tragedy, it's just the scum bag press pouring petrol on a fire. Hitting someone on the leg and then giving him a good shove, wouldn't normally lead to anything more than maybe bruising. To me it seems a rotten, horrible event in which everyone involved is some sort of victim. As for the riot car killers, the judge blamed evidence given by a detective as being close to perjury, in that he had lied about the fact that witnesses for the prosecution had been offered immunity from prosecution, subsequently telling the jury that they should regard what these witnesses had said with suspicion. This wiped out the prosecution case. What surprises me is that there hasn't been a bigger outcry over this.

No. Not in anyway shape or form. The victim is dead. The Police Officer who assaulted a member of the public and got away with it is not a victim.

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:48 am  

An Observer editorial from 22 July that seems to hit the spot

An Observer editorial from 22 July that seems to hit the spot

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:33 pm  

In a sad postscript to the case, the original idiot pathologist, Freddy Patel, already suspended for dishonesty in his findings, has been found "not fit to practise", the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service said he had "brought the profession into disrepute" and said his integrity could not be relied upon. He also breached one of the "fundamental tenets of the profession" through his dishonesty, it said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19334292

In a sad postscript to the case, the original idiot pathologist, Freddy Patel, already suspended for dishonesty in his findings, has been found "not fit to practise", the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service said he had "brought the profession into disrepute" and said his integrity could not be relied upon. He also breached one of the "fundamental tenets of the profession" through his dishonesty, it said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19334292

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:38 am  

Harwood to face Met Police disciplinary

Harwood to face Met Police disciplinary

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:56 am  

Is it possible for anyone to evade a disciplinary by resigning, and then applying for their job back later on when the fuss has died down, I wonder?

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:02 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Is it possible for anyone to evade a disciplinary by resigning, and then applying for their job back later on when the fuss has died down, I wonder?

Nah!!!

That would be wholly immoral and our police service would have strict procedures in place to make sure that course of action was totally inconceivable.

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:27 pm  

I thought you'd have had at least one bite by now

[Wanderer]

Re: Tomlinson PC not guilty, Riot car killers not guilty : Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:05 pm  

I was gonna do this ...

... but thought better of it ...