Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:00 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Ah yes, a bit of thread diversion when Dally can't cope with reality.

"Reality" - are you living in the 'real world' now then?

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:02 pm  

I thought he meant zero chance of having a bright idea...

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:07 pm  

Dally wrote:

"Reality" - are you living in the 'real world' now then?

You posted a stupid story and are now avoiding dealing with it being trashed as such.

Indeed, you've added absolutely nothing to the topic about the topic.

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:17 pm  

Part of the Olympic legacy for me was carpet bagger Dave and his fag, gorgeous George Gideon Oliver, getting deservedly booed at the paralympics.

Trouble is Boris is going to take over at some point and he does seem to have the common touch, lacking in anything Labour has, so the other part of the legacy seems to be, we'll have to endure another term for the torys.

Did it really cost £9 billion??

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:35 pm  

Mintball wrote:

You posted a stupid story and you've added absolutely nothing to the topic about the topic.

What is there to add? A bunch of egotistical, over-paid dinosaurs pursuing their own agenda against the wishes of the majority of the electorate and alot of their so called members. They just make me sick.

Is that clear enough for you?

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:53 pm  

Dally wrote:

What is there to add? A bunch of egotistical, over-paid dinosaurs pursuing their own agenda against the wishes of the majority of the electorate and alot of their so called members. They just make me sick.

Is that clear enough for you?

So, start a thread and then can't make a contribution?

Not a sign of great intellectual powers or even a basic capacity to think for oneself.

This sort of drivel has been shown up, time and again, on these boards, for being just that.

But then, you're a drivelling idiot.

In your mind, people should just buckle under – even if that means having to choose between paying a bill or buying food, as is happening, to working people, right now.

You're the sort of drivelling idiot who believes all the hate-filled bile that the 'Mail' spouts about public service workers. You lap it up and get off on it without ever daring to consider whether its true.

You help that hypocritical piece of trash spread its brand of hate porn – because you get off on it.

You're still incapable of comprehending what caused the financial crisis and the ongoing recession – there was growth in the economy and employment had stabilised when this lot took office, FFS – and you simply continue to spout the usual idiocy, without any regard for what is happening.

Oh no, in your pathetic little world, it's all those bin men and dinnerladies and nurses and 999 call centre staff and medical secretaries who are to blame – and how dare they expect a decent living wage? How dare they not take year-on-year pay cuts and expect not to have to choose between food and fuel. You do, after all – except that, of course, you don't.

Oh yes – let everyone else rot while the very rich continue to line their own pockets at the expense of everybody else. Just as long as you're okay.

How dare you expect that working people continue to suffer – and then suffer even more – for something that they did not cause, and when it's not even f**king working on the government's own cretinous terms!

How f**king dare you.

Nastiness. Utter nastiness and inhumanity, coupled with utter ignorance and economic illiteracy.

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you believe that people should just put up and shut up, when they're struggling to make basic ends meet?

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you believe this is what the economy needs?

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you apparently believe that the very rich getting ever richer while everyone else gets poorer is even remotely acceptable?

And what, if these trades unions have got it so wrong, should be done?

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:00 pm  

Mintball wrote:

So, start a thread and then can't make a contribution?

Not a sign of great intellectual powers or even a basic capacity to think for oneself.

This sort of drivel has been shown up, time and again, on these boards, for being just that.

But then, you're a drivelling idiot.

In your mind, people should just buckle under – even if that means having to choose between paying a bill or buying food, as is happening, to working people, right now.

You're the sort of drivelling idiot who believes all the hate-filled bile that the 'Mail' spouts about public service workers. You lap it up and get off on it without ever daring to consider whether its true.

You help that hypocritical piece of trash spread its brand of hate porn – because you get off on it.

You're still incapable of comprehending what caused the financial crisis and the ongoing recession – there was growth in the economy and employment had stabilised when this lot took office, FFS – and you simply continue to spout the usual idiocy, without any regard for what is happening.

Oh no, in your pathetic little world, it's all those bin men and dinnerladies and nurses and 999 call centre staff and medical secretaries who are to blame – and how dare they expect a decent living wage? How dare they not take year-on-year pay cuts and expect not to have to choose between food and fuel. You do, after all – except that, of course, you don't.

Oh yes – let everyone else rot while the very rich continue to line their own pockets at the expense of everybody else. Just as long as you're okay.

How dare you expect that working people continue to suffer – and then suffer even more – for something that they did not cause, and when it's not even f**king working on the government's own cretinous terms!

How f**king dare you.

Nastiness. Utter nastiness and inhumanity, coupled with utter ignorance and economic illiteracy.

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you believe that people should just put up and shut up, when they're struggling to make basic ends meet?

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you believe this is what the economy needs?

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you apparently believe that the very rich getting ever richer while everyone else gets poorer is even remotely acceptable?

And what, if these trades unions have got it so wrong, should be done?

Even by your standards that is an embarrassing post.

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:15 pm  

Dally wrote:

Even by your standards that is an embarrassing post.

Let's repeat the actually questions I asked – and see if you can attempt answers, instead of dodging again.

Mintball wrote:

... Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you believe that people should just put up and shut up, when they're struggling to make basic ends meet?

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you believe this is what the economy needs?

Why, for a single, solitary minute, do you apparently believe that the very rich getting ever richer while everyone else gets poorer is even remotely acceptable?

And what, if these trades unions have got it so wrong, should be done?

And it could not have been as "embarrassing" as this:

Dally wrote:

Just like career politicians, these people are a disgrace.

You simply accepted something, which happened to suit your prejudices, as fact.

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:48 pm  

The problem is that Union leaders generally set their members agenda for their own ends, rather than the other way round. As a result, they represent a threat to stable, democratic government. Instead, of leaders creating the agenda, then balloting for strike action perhaps the law should be changed such that a strike ballot can only be called when a quorum of unsolicited members ask their union to establish a ballot? That I could accept as fair and reasonable.

The thing you do not seem to understand is that privatisation of utilities, the railways, PO, etc (and which has now spread to the NHS) has come about not for any economic reason but to break up the power of unions with national memberships to hold the whole country (and thereby democracy and freedom) to ransom. If union leaders had always acted responsibly and in their members best interests (rather that what, at best, they consider in their wisdom to be their members best interests) then we would not continue to see the destruction of the good things in our society.

Re: Olympic legacy : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:59 pm  

Dally wrote:

The problem is that Union leaders generally set their members agenda for their own ends, rather than the other way round. As a result, they represent a threat to stable, democratic government. Instead, of leaders creating the agenda, then balloting for strike action perhaps the law should be changed such that a strike ballot can only be called when a quorum of unsolicited members ask their union to establish a ballot? That I could accept as fair and reasonable.

The thing you do not seem to understand is that privatisation of utilities, the railways, PO, etc (and which has now spread to the NHS) has come about not for any economic reason but to break up the power of unions with national memberships to hold the whole country (and thereby democracy and freedom) to ransom. If union leaders had always acted responsibly and in their members best interests (rather that what, at best, they consider in their wisdom to be their members best interests) then we would not continue to see the destruction of the good things in our society.

TBH, they should just tug their forelocks and get back to work the lazy barstewards