Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:21 pm  

To much emphasis on supplements these days, I have done weights for years and through experience i would recomend protein powders if you are not getting enough through diet and creatine for muscle building, forget everything else, expensive that make little difference. as far as fat burning goes, diet and exercise, if you get down to low fat levels and want to shift that last bit try a fat burner but the majority are stim based will have you buzzing a bit. Caffiene tablets are cheap if you really want a supp.

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:09 pm  

http://www.bootcampfoods.com/ I have done this and lost pretty much 1lb per day. Tough going, but ultimately worth it for my goals of losing a bit before holiday!

http://www.bootcampfoods.com/ I have done this and lost pretty much 1lb per day. Tough going, but ultimately worth it for my goals of losing a bit before holiday!

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:04 pm  

Standee wrote:

Im not for one minute saying that I'd gain huge speed by being a porker, but I could do to weight about 2 stone more, when I ski with my pack on (with camera's etc.) then I do get faster, but the centre of gravity is unusual so I become unstable. I never train(ed) for more than 45 minutes at a time, always did stacked reps and sets, the big issue for me is calorie intake, I eat about 800 a day, and even then I force that down, if I could find a reliable (and digestable) option that packed me 1000 calories in without impacting my ability to do the rest of my day then I'd be back in the gym tomorrow.

Do you really only take in 800 calories a day?? As far as I'm aware that's only just above malnutrition levels.

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:10 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

Do you really only take in 800 calories a day?? As far as I'm aware that's only just above malnutrition levels.

Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?

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Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:50 pm  

It was this article that made me wonder if it was something the could/would/does work or not??

It was this article that made me wonder if it was something the could/would/does work or not??

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:46 am  

Mike Oxlong wrote: It was this article that made me wonder if it was something the could/would/does work or not?? That is a waste of money in a bottle.

Mike Oxlong wrote: It was this article that made me wonder if it was something the could/would/does work or not?? That is a waste of money in a bottle.

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:32 pm  

Standee wrote:

Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?

If there's nothing physically wrong, which only a specialist either NHS or private could ascertain, 800 calories a day is bordering on dangerous. There's apparently something such as starvation mode that your body enters into when you don't get enough food, resulting in a reduced appetite. This is bad, not just because it can lead to reduced organ function but also should you become ill, your body will not have the wherewithal to cope.

If I were you, I'd ask my GP to refer me asap. In the meantime, you could try "Ensure Plus Juce". I was prescribed this for around four months, following an operation and it's very easy to take (liquid form) with 330 calories per 200ml. I was on 4 a day plus an odd bit of toast and my weight and appetite is back to near normal.

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:59 pm  

Standee wrote:

Ovavoo wrote:

Do you really only take in 800 calories a day?? As far as I'm aware that's only just above malnutrition levels.

Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?

Nuts are an old fashioned nutrition remedy for those with a suppressed appetite.

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:18 pm  

Standee wrote:

Yes, I would imagine it's not much more, maybe a 1000 at times, that is why I'd like to find a supplement that suits me, too much emphasis on getting thin (which is easy, eat less fatty!), can't get help from my GP or even private, they all say the same stuff "eat more" sorry, but if I don't have an apetite then how can I?

Could it be you just have a small stomach?. I don't want to sound patronising but i do know somebody who was taken years ago to the doctors by the parents (who were worried that something was wrong and fed up with peoples comments that they can't be feeding them enough) and that was the diagnosis.

Re: Muscle building/fat burning supplements : Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:53 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

If there's nothing physically wrong, which only a specialist either NHS or private could ascertain, 800 calories a day is bordering on dangerous. There's apparently something such as starvation mode that your body enters into when you don't get enough food, resulting in a reduced appetite. This is bad, not just because it can lead to reduced organ function but also should you become ill, your body will not have the wherewithal to cope.

If I were you, I'd ask my GP to refer me asap. In the meantime, you could try "Ensure Plus Juce". I was prescribed this for around four months, following an operation and it's very easy to take (liquid form) with 330 calories per 200ml. I was on 4 a day plus an odd bit of toast and my weight and appetite is back to near normal.

Thanks, I'll give that a try.