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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:02 pm  
As others have said, it's a personal choice and no-one should be pressured into buying a poppy or be hassled for not wearing one. If I were Kirkstaller I'd complain to the Council about it.
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:07 pm  
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Wot he says.


Holy sh*t i could have sworn you'd have been with the sanctimonious poppy brigade :twisted:
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:10 pm  
Wasn't the young kid from Sunderland the only Premiership footballer not to wear one this wkend?
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:38 pm  
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Wasn't the young kid from Sunderland the only Premiership footballer not to wear one this wkend?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... poppy.html
WIZEB wrote:
Wasn't the young kid from Sunderland the only Premiership footballer not to wear one this wkend?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... poppy.html
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:45 pm  
Personal choice, correct.
Same as Rio not wearing the anti-racism t-shirt and Jon Snow declining to wear a poppy on C4 News.
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:50 pm  
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Personal choice, correct.
Same as Rio not wearing the anti-racism t-shirt and Jon Snow declining to wear a poppy on C4 News.


Such personal choices are often roundly condemned, and, in almost every case, they are condemned without any effort being made to speak to the party concerned in order for them to defend themselves.
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:56 pm  
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Such personal choices are often roundly condemned, and, in almost every case, they are condemned without any effort being made to speak to the party concerned in order for them to defend themselves.


Like gay marriage for example?
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:07 pm  
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Unfortunately post-Diana Britain seems to have picked up a certain scouse quality of grief culture, be it overly aggressively supporting charitable causes or being keen to be seen as being most upset at whatever event (it says a lot that all three England RL internationals have been preceded by a minutes silence including one for a woman who got run over ffs).

You're quite within your rights not to buy a poppy for whatever reason you choose. Whilst modern soldiers certainly put a lot at stake for the greater good they also do it out of choice. On Remembrance Sunday I think it's far more relevant to remember those who died without much choice in the matter, and buying a poppy doesn't make a blind bit of difference to their lives.


Your right, the modern soldier does enlist out of choice. However, we would be totally f'cked if nobody volunteered, like it or not we need the armed forces, we might not agree with whatever conflict they are engaged in at any given time but without them we would be bolloxed and a target for anyone who fancied a pop at us. Wearing a poppy is a personal choice and contributions to service charities are the same and while I wear one with pride, I respect others right not to wear them. As for the money raised not making a blind bit of difference to those who have died in conscripted wars, of course it doesn't, but it does make a hell of a difference to the many seriously injured servicemen and women (and families) who are currently getting shafted by the current (and preceding) government. The Americans woke up to treating their veterans with some respect after the scandals of the Vietnam vets were highlighted and maybe of we did the same as a country, we might not need to buy poppies to raise money in the future.
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:13 pm  
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2231071/James-McClean-refuses-wear-poppy.html


Its his right, but perhaps someone might like to sit him down and explain what remembrance day is actually about, there are many a dead Irishman lying in foreign fields after fighting against genuine tyranny over the last hundred years or so.
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Re: Remembrance Day and the Poppy Mafia : Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:19 pm  
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Its his right, but perhaps someone might like to sit him down and explain what remembrance day is actually about, there are many a dead Irishman lying in foreign fields after fighting against genuine tyranny over the last hundred years or so.


I'm sat watching Grand Slam Darts on Sky Sports right now.
Half the players are wearing poppies and half of them aren't.
There'll be no bollox in the papers about it tomorrow though will there?
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