Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:52 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Doesn't the monarch still have some power via the Privy Council?

I thought the Privy Council was effectively controlled by the Cabinet, but I could be wrong.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:53 pm  

More than just the privy council. It seems they reserve the right to be consulted over new laws to make sure they don't have to suffer like the plebs do. Democracy, eh?

More than just the privy council. It seems they reserve the right to be consulted over new laws to make sure they don't have to suffer like the plebs do. Democracy, eh?

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:07 pm  

Every bill that passes throuh Parliament (the Commons and the Lords), then gets passed to the monarch for his or her royal assent before it is formally encated into law.

This is part of our unwritten constitution and in practice the monarch would not refuse royal assent becaue the bill had passed through the democratically elected chambers and the theory is that if royal assent were every refused there would be a huge constitutional crisis, uprisings etc and probably the end of the monarchy. Hence why royal assent would not be refused. The last time was 1707.

[tb]

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:41 pm  

has anyone said "political correctness gone mad" yet?


btw, I'm sure I read when I was doing a political science degree way back when that what is required to declare a state of emergency, impose martial law, suspend habeus corpus, dissolve or suspend parliament(s) and the rest of our unwritten 'constitution' is the signature of the monarch, backed by three privy councillors. The PC includes all current cabinet members, all previous cabinet members, ever, who are still alive plus a few odds and sods who've never been in a cabinet. I could be wrong though.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:53 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Ditching primogeniture but keeping the monarchy is like painting a crumbling wall in a nice modern colour.
It gives royal women a shot at the top job but changes absolutely nothing for the other 46 million of us who are supposedly the electorate but who are denied a democratic choice.

Yeah, how very up to date that is.
Whoop-de-doo.

We have got the monarchy just were we want them.
Puppets ... lavishly paid puppets granted ... but puppets nevertheless.
It must be terrible living in that goldfish bowl opulence.
I'd give it a go mind, especially with Kate.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:17 am  

Stand-Offish wrote:

I'd give it a go mind, especially with Kate.

Never say never. She may end up like the former Princess of Hearts, embroiled in a bitter menage de trois then think fook it, from now on I'm going to be a raging cock monster.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:38 pm  

tb wrote: has anyone said "political correctness gone mad" yet? btw, I'm sure I read when I was doing a political science degree way back when that what is required to declare a state of emergency, impose martial law, suspend habeus corpus, dissolve or suspend parliament(s) and the rest of our unwritten 'constitution' is the signature of the monarch, backed by three privy councillors. The PC includes all current cabinet members, all previous cabinet members, ever, who are still alive plus a few odds and sods who've never been in a cabinet. I could be wrong though. http://privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/privy-council/privy-council-members/privy-counsellors/ I wouldn't like to have to make the sandwiches.

tb wrote: has anyone said "political correctness gone mad" yet? btw, I'm sure I read when I was doing a political science degree way back when that what is required to declare a state of emergency, impose martial law, suspend habeus corpus, dissolve or suspend parliament(s) and the rest of our unwritten 'constitution' is the signature of the monarch, backed by three privy councillors. The PC includes all current cabinet members, all previous cabinet members, ever, who are still alive plus a few odds and sods who've never been in a cabinet. I could be wrong though. http://privycouncil.independent.gov.uk/privy-council/privy-council-members/privy-counsellors/ I wouldn't like to have to make the sandwiches.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:05 pm  

What next - only adoptees of gay queens can succeed? It is political correctness gone mad.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:00 pm  

Dally wrote:

What next - only adoptees of gay queens can succeed? It is political correctness gone mad.

My dear boy, queens are always gay.

Re: Royal succession - chipping away at tradition : Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Never say never. She may end up like the former Princess of Hearts, embroiled in a bitter menage de trois then think fook it, from now on I'm going to be a raging cock monster.

Excellent, line me up