Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:58 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Hello minty. I understood it that kirky was taking what Paul said and using it in a different context. Showing when people when meant to have been born has nothing to do with anything in this instance.

I'm not religious, but I understood that.

The amusing thing here is that Kirkstaller has managed to state that his own god is a 'false idol'.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:03 am  

Mintball wrote:

The amusing thing here is that Kirkstaller has managed to state that his own god is a 'false idol'.

Yeah I noticed that. Children of Abraham and all that.

You got what he said but still tried to throw people off what he meant. That was a tincy whincy bit more amusing.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:18 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Yeah I noticed that. Children of Abraham and all that.

You got what he said but still tried to throw people off what he meant. That was a tincy whincy bit more amusing.

No.

I thought he was claiming that Paul commented on Islamic practices. As simple as that. Let's face it, since he denies that Yahweh, Jehovah and Allah are one and the same, who knows what he could come up with?

But regardless of whether he was doing that or, as you say, taking something attributed to Paul and extrapolating, in so doing he has damned his own god as a 'false idol'.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:23 am  

bren2k wrote:

What does God do when he's annoyed? I'm vaguely familiar with the wrathful, plague and pestilence type stuff, which I assume is what he does when he's really hacked off, but how does his minor irritation manifest itself?

Chinese burns. Or wedgies.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:37 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Yeah I noticed that. Children of Abraham and all that.

You got what he said but still tried to throw people off what he meant. That was a tincy whincy bit more amusing.

Christians and Muslims do not worship the same god. Muslims claim that they do, they try and hang onto the coat-tails of the established Judeo-Christian heritage, but that does not mean that both gods should be viewed as one and the same, even by outsiders such as yourself.

The problem for Muslims is that simply saying it is the same god just isn’t good enough. You can’t just claim that your continuing the Abrahamic tradition after a 600 year hiatus. You have to show that there are some similarities between the two.

Allah (BTW I am aware that this is simply the Arabic word for god, however I’ll use it to refer to the Islamic moon god) has totally different characteristics to the triune godhead. Even if you just compare the Christian concept of the Father with Allah, the two are massively different.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:40 am  

Thank goodness Yahweh/Jehovah isn't a murdering god who approves of child rape and killing, and leaves that sort of thing to old Allah.

Most Christians that I've ever met understand entirely that all the three Abrahamic religions have the same god. But then obviously, as in all these matters, they don't have Kirkstaller's experience of a one-on-one with Jesus.

Although one cannot help but wonder why Jesus and his dad don't make sure that they spread this stuff a bit wider.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:47 am  

kirkstaller wrote:

... You can’t just claim that your continuing the Abrahamic tradition after a 600 year hiatus. .

The notion of the Trinity wasn't adopted until c300 years after Christ anyway.
So your criticism applies to your own cult too.
Unless you are a binitarian?


I know, I know, I said I was out of this one ... so sue me.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:58 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

The notion of the Trinity wasn't adopted until c300 years after Christ anyway.
So your criticism applies to your own cult too.
Unless you are a binitarian?

Jesus taught this doctrine back in the Gospels a long time before the Roman church labelled it the Trinity.

Not that it matters, given that the church was going from strength to strength anyway.

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:26 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I object. This is pure discrimination. Durham Giant has repeatedly diagnosed me as a basket case, yet nobody has expressed the slightest worry about it. This is unfair, why is kirkstaller so special that you are worried about him, when you aren't worried about me?

As you are a basket case I'll care about you too. Happy now ?

Re: Another Muslim overreaction : Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:28 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Christians and Muslims do not worship the same god. Muslims claim that they do, they try and hang onto the coat-tails of the established Judeo-Christian heritage, but that does not mean that both gods should be viewed as one and the same, even by outsiders such as yourself.

The problem for Muslims is that simply saying it is the same god just isn’t good enough. You can’t just claim that your continuing the Abrahamic tradition after a 600 year hiatus. You have to show that there are some similarities between the two.

Allah (BTW I am aware that this is simply the Arabic word for god, however I’ll use it to refer to the Islamic moon god) has totally different characteristics to the triune godhead. Even if you just compare the Christian concept of the Father with Allah, the two are massively different.

Same God but a different name.