Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:50 am  

Maple Leaf wrote:

Isn't it about time that spitting was deemed to be a criminal offence rather than a civil offence?

Immigrants from countries where TB is still widespread do bring it into the UK which is why it is now rising again. It is spread through sneezing and coughing as this creates a fine mist which other people can breathe in.

If you now look at the TB hot spots, they all have 1 thing in common, high population of immigrants, who spit on the floor non stop.

This is a public health hazard - if you defecate or urinate in public it is a criminal offence. Why not apply the same criteria to spitting?

I have to have regular chest xrays because the drugs I am on raise the risk of TB for me and I have to tell my GP immediately if I have come into contact with anyone with TB. Funnily enough it doesn't say on the contraindications that I must keep away from immigrants which would be impossible for me because I am one!

Go on spout your racist nonsense on an EDL forum because it isn't welcome here.

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:57 am  

Enfield is to become the first place in England to make spitting a criminal offence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23429849 The proposals which were supported by more than 4,000 residents, would make it an offence to spit in the street "without reasonable excuse", but does not cover spitting into a handkerchief or tissue. Secretary of State, Mr Pickles, said: "Spitting is a deeply anti-social and unpleasant practice... not socially acceptable." So, micro-social engineering, then. Funny, that. I watch a lot of Premiership and European and world football, and so far as I can see, the average player can't move more than 3 or 4 paces without a good gob. Punctuated by regular pinched nose snot-evacuations. Are they going to station the police around every football field, with snatch squads to whip the offenders into detention? And why Enfield? Surely it should have been Spitalfields? However, the real question isn't whether the habit is disgusting (it is), but whether we are at any risk from it. Dr Val Curtis, director of the Hygiene Centre at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine should probably know. She wrote: "From a health perspective it is reasonable to say there are many more dangerous things in the world than spitting in the street... but it is a manners issue." Basically that would be a "no", then.

Enfield is to become the first place in England to make spitting a criminal offence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23429849 The proposals which were supported by more than 4,000 residents, would make it an offence to spit in the street "without reasonable excuse", but does not cover spitting into a handkerchief or tissue. Secretary of State, Mr Pickles, said: "Spitting is a deeply anti-social and unpleasant practice... not socially acceptable." So, micro-social engineering, then. Funny, that. I watch a lot of Premiership and European and world football, and so far as I can see, the average player can't move more than 3 or 4 paces without a good gob. Punctuated by regular pinched nose snot-evacuations. Are they going to station the police around every football field, with snatch squads to whip the offenders into detention? And why Enfield? Surely it should have been Spitalfields? However, the real question isn't whether the habit is disgusting (it is), but whether we are at any risk from it. Dr Val Curtis, director of the Hygiene Centre at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine should probably know. She wrote: "From a health perspective it is reasonable to say there are many more dangerous things in the world than spitting in the street... but it is a manners issue." Basically that would be a "no", then.

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:05 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

...And why Enfield? Surely it should have been Spitalfields?...

Or hospital?

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:35 am  

Mintball wrote:

Funny: I live in Hackney, which is one of the 'hotspots' and not far from Tower Hamlets, which is another. I've lived here for more than two decades and have yet to see any of the immigrant communities "spit on the floor non stop".

You can't deny having tb though!

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:36 am  

Keith wrote:

You can't deny having tb though!

Was just about to post something similar

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:45 am  

Chris28 wrote:

Was just about to post something similar

I thought this thread was about the real live human TB too

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:57 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Enfield is to become the first place in England to make spitting a criminal offence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23429849 So, micro-social engineering, then. Funny, that. I watch a lot of Premiership and European and world football, and so far as I can see, the average player can't move more than 3 or 4 paces without a good gob. Punctuated by regular pinched nose snot-evacuations. Are they going to station the police around every football field, with snatch squads to whip the offenders into detention? ... Same could be said of other sports, including athletics.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Enfield is to become the first place in England to make spitting a criminal offence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23429849 So, micro-social engineering, then. Funny, that. I watch a lot of Premiership and European and world football, and so far as I can see, the average player can't move more than 3 or 4 paces without a good gob. Punctuated by regular pinched nose snot-evacuations. Are they going to station the police around every football field, with snatch squads to whip the offenders into detention? ... Same could be said of other sports, including athletics.

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:57 am  

Keith wrote:

You can't deny having tb though!

Yes, yes, yes ...

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:44 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Enfield is to become the first place in England to make spitting a criminal offence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23429849 So, micro-social engineering, then. Funny, that. I watch a lot of Premiership and European and world football, and so far as I can see, the average player can't move more than 3 or 4 paces without a good gob. Punctuated by regular pinched nose snot-evacuations. Are they going to station the police around every football field, with snatch squads to whip the offenders into detention? Some football players must be almost dehydrated by halftime with the amount of spitting they do. My brother coaches junior RU and one of his pet hates is spitting on the field of play - its almost time for their season to start with a new age group for him to take and on the first training session he is guaranteed to call them all together at the first gob full sprogged out onto the field, point to it, and then ask for any volunteers to roll around in it, followed up by "...because thats what you're all going to be doing when we kick off, rolling about in someone else's phlegm", they tend not to do it so often after that.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Enfield is to become the first place in England to make spitting a criminal offence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23429849 So, micro-social engineering, then. Funny, that. I watch a lot of Premiership and European and world football, and so far as I can see, the average player can't move more than 3 or 4 paces without a good gob. Punctuated by regular pinched nose snot-evacuations. Are they going to station the police around every football field, with snatch squads to whip the offenders into detention? Some football players must be almost dehydrated by halftime with the amount of spitting they do. My brother coaches junior RU and one of his pet hates is spitting on the field of play - its almost time for their season to start with a new age group for him to take and on the first training session he is guaranteed to call them all together at the first gob full sprogged out onto the field, point to it, and then ask for any volunteers to roll around in it, followed up by "...because thats what you're all going to be doing when we kick off, rolling about in someone else's phlegm", they tend not to do it so often after that.

Re: TB and spitting : Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:54 am  

Mintball wrote:

Funny: I live in Hackney, which is one of the 'hotspots' and not far from Tower Hamlets, which is another. I've lived here for more than two decades and have yet to see any of the immigrant communities "spit on the floor non stop".

Which of these hotspots do you personally know and where have you witnessed this?

Ok, but do you ever go out?