Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:11 pm  

The Lib Dems rely on a rather large student vote in some areas. There's a realistic chance that Clegg could be without a seat after the next election, seeing as his constituency is where the Sheffield University Halls of Residence are. All it takes is a couple of bright sparks to coordinate a campaign to vote for a certain candidate and get enough students behind it.

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:50 am  

CM Punk wrote:

The Lib Dems rely on a rather large student vote in some areas. There's a realistic chance that Clegg could be without a seat after the next election, seeing as his constituency is where the Sheffield University Halls of Residence are. All it takes is a couple of bright sparks to coordinate a campaign to vote for a certain candidate and get enough students behind it.

Clegg had a majority of approx 15,000 last time. He had roughly 27,000 votes, the tories had 12,000, labour 8,000, assorted loonies 3,000.

Which certain candidate will the students back? The tory? How many students are there in Hallam?

Lib Dem MP's will undoubtedly lose votes to Labour in 2015. But that might not necessarily cost them their seats. The constituency where I used to live bucked the trend at the 2010 election in that it switched from Labour to the Lib Dems, with a tiny majority. Clearly at least a view thousand of the Lib Dem voters will switch to Labour in 2015. Its very likely that the Lib Dem MP will be kicked out, especially since he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory. But 6,000 voters voted Tory at the 2010 election. A long way back in 3rd place but still a sizeable number. Many of them probably did not envisage ever being in coalition with the Lib Dems, some of them probably wish they still hadn't. But perhaps a significant number of them might decide in 2015 that it would be in their interest to vote Lib Dem?

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:32 am  

Cibaman wrote:

Clegg had a majority of approx 15,000 last time. He had roughly 27,000 votes, the tories had 12,000, labour 8,000, assorted loonies 3,000.

Which certain candidate will the students back? The tory? How many students are there in Hallam?

Lib Dem MP's will undoubtedly lose votes to Labour in 2015. But that might not necessarily cost them their seats. The constituency where I used to live bucked the trend at the 2010 election in that it switched from Labour to the Lib Dems, with a tiny majority. Clearly at least a view thousand of the Lib Dem voters will switch to Labour in 2015. Its very likely that the Lib Dem MP will be kicked out, especially since he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory. But 6,000 voters voted Tory at the 2010 election. A long way back in 3rd place but still a sizeable number. Many of them probably did not envisage ever being in coalition with the Lib Dems, some of them probably wish they still hadn't. But perhaps a significant number of them might decide in 2015 that it would be in their interest to vote Lib Dem?

Pretty much the same in my constituency which has a LibDem MP with a 9000+ majority in 2010, with the added gloss that he is quite well respected in the area as an MP who is not frightened to vote against or abstain from voting if he disagrees with a party policy, he's also very good at publicity, lives in the constituency, works a lot on local issues and generally puts himself in the spotlight so that you know who he is and what he is doing for the area - I'm no supporter of political parties and I'm no supporter of the LibDems but I like the cut of his jib and would certainly vote for him again and fook anyone who thinks you should only vote on party lines and party manifesto's, which, as we all know, get binned on the evening of every election.

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:38 am  

Tory dogma is that people work to make them rich without having to do the work them selves. (see under monarchy, aristocracy)
The idea that paying workers and caring for their well being is anathema.
If they could bring back slavery , and this lot are trying to give it a go, then they would be very happy indeed.
Just remember that when slavery was abolished, there was compensation given out.
Guess who got it?

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:40 am  

The limp dems will go into meltdown come 2015, even their own MPs are deserting them (Sarah Teather).

Tory membership is haemorrhaging to the point that Shapps will not confirm membership numbers to a senior backer like Lorf Ashcroft. They will undoubtedly lose far-right votes to UKIP, while many middle class votes will swing back to Labour.

While the tories will conduct a dirty campaign, given the strategists they've brought on board. I think it is essential for Labour to take their campaign back to the doorsteps, not just in marginals but in every seat they fight.

As an aside, I thought Armando Ianucci's descriptionof Nigel Farage was spot on: Alan Partridge's unmarried uncle

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:02 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

Pretty much the same in my constituency which has a LibDem MP with a 9000+ majority in 2010, with the added gloss that he is quite well respected in the area as an MP who is not frightened to vote against or abstain from voting if he disagrees with a party policy, he's also very good at publicity, lives in the constituency, works a lot on local issues and generally puts himself in the spotlight so that you know who he is and what he is doing for the area - I'm no supporter of political parties and I'm no supporter of the LibDems but I like the cut of his jib and would certainly vote for him again and fook anyone who thinks you should only vote on party lines and party manifesto's, which, as we all know, get binned on the evening of every election.

Your admiration for Gregory hath no limits.

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:36 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Your admiration for Gregory hath no limits.

He likes beer.

He called carlsberg a set of bastads when they closed Tetleys.

He said he liked one of my drawings once.

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:55 am  

JerryChicken wrote:

He likes beer.

He called carlsberg a set of bastads when they closed Tetleys.

He said he liked one of my drawings once.

Nowt wrong with a bit of man-love.
Does your wife know?

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:29 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Nowt wrong with a bit of man-love.
Does your wife know?

Talking about your Lib-dems JC, Danny Alexander has just been interviewed on Sky News.
I am trying to think of a more unappealing politician since the beautiful Margaret departed us.
I'm struggling.

Re: Have This Government Got A Death Wish? : Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:39 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Nowt wrong with a bit of man-love.
Does your wife know?

I ain't no Norman Scott, I've heard all about these bloody Liberals...